Chris_North
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Haha you have no idea how happy that makes me to hear that someone else has had an issue similar to mine! Will do, so long as if your issue resurfaces and you figure it out before me you do the same.
So I've unplugged every module in the cab. 4WD, ABS, GEM, PDM, air bag, all the relays from the previously unseen box (not that I believed they'd do anything), completely removed the alternator electrically from the vehicle, and still this effing light is flashing and the gauges are screwed. I verified the condition of the resistors on the back of the gauge cluster and they all check out. Besides the ECM I don't think there are any more modules, controllers, or computers left to eliminate.
I appear to be getting clean power from both the key on power and hot at all times power pins on the air bag signal plug to the gauge cluster to ground. I also get seemingly clean power from the AB signal ground to both positive power pins. What's weird is that I will get better voltage with the module unplugged. I do not understand where the signal comes from the turn that light on if it only runs from the light directly to the airbag module. The best I could come up with without actually looking into it is that when the AB module plug is removed from the module there is a spring loaded pin that grounds the pin to the light to illuminate it. Anyone know whether or not this is true?
Without pulling them apart I checked the grounds in the cab and they look okay but I intend on thoroughly checking them next time I have time to kill. The only thing I can think of is that the problem is possibly in the cluster itself, but I have a feeling that it is not. I'm going to try a salvaged one and see what happens. I've visually inspected all exposed wiring and connectors (which right now is damn near everything) but I'll pull the air ducts off to make sure. If nothing of this changes anything I'll pretty much be at a loss. I have yet to check continuity from the ground pins on various plugs to battery ground. After that the last thing I could think of is to try replacing the ECM, but I also doubt that is the problem as it does not have a whole lot to do with what's going on.
What's worse is I have no one else to take it to if I can't figure it out. I have little faith that anyone else would figure anything better out than I have and the bill for that would probably be outrageous. I even called a dealer and they said they had never heard of this problem and had no idea where to start. Their exact words were "it could be almost anything." That didn't help narrow it down.
So I've unplugged every module in the cab. 4WD, ABS, GEM, PDM, air bag, all the relays from the previously unseen box (not that I believed they'd do anything), completely removed the alternator electrically from the vehicle, and still this effing light is flashing and the gauges are screwed. I verified the condition of the resistors on the back of the gauge cluster and they all check out. Besides the ECM I don't think there are any more modules, controllers, or computers left to eliminate.
I appear to be getting clean power from both the key on power and hot at all times power pins on the air bag signal plug to the gauge cluster to ground. I also get seemingly clean power from the AB signal ground to both positive power pins. What's weird is that I will get better voltage with the module unplugged. I do not understand where the signal comes from the turn that light on if it only runs from the light directly to the airbag module. The best I could come up with without actually looking into it is that when the AB module plug is removed from the module there is a spring loaded pin that grounds the pin to the light to illuminate it. Anyone know whether or not this is true?
Without pulling them apart I checked the grounds in the cab and they look okay but I intend on thoroughly checking them next time I have time to kill. The only thing I can think of is that the problem is possibly in the cluster itself, but I have a feeling that it is not. I'm going to try a salvaged one and see what happens. I've visually inspected all exposed wiring and connectors (which right now is damn near everything) but I'll pull the air ducts off to make sure. If nothing of this changes anything I'll pretty much be at a loss. I have yet to check continuity from the ground pins on various plugs to battery ground. After that the last thing I could think of is to try replacing the ECM, but I also doubt that is the problem as it does not have a whole lot to do with what's going on.
What's worse is I have no one else to take it to if I can't figure it out. I have little faith that anyone else would figure anything better out than I have and the bill for that would probably be outrageous. I even called a dealer and they said they had never heard of this problem and had no idea where to start. Their exact words were "it could be almost anything." That didn't help narrow it down.