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Old 08-04-2011, 06:21 PM   #11
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I might get bashed for this, but oh well. I've noticed the generation (aka the I-pod generation) that is entering the workforce take zero pride in their work. To some degree, none of us were seasoned properly going into the real world. But these guys are absolutely unseasoned. Ask them to use a hammer, and they need a damn app for it.
I completely agree. There is no longer accountability. It's more about who you know than what you know. It's unfortunate because quality of service and product suffers.
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:04 PM   #12
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My nickname at work is "The Nazi" because I'm apparently too picky when it comes to CNC programs. Some seem to think +/-.0006" is okay when the tolerance is +/-.0002"
It depends on the company that orders the finished product. Sometimes the blueprint gives leeway on the tolerances.
I admire too picky people who want to "get it right" the first time....It saves $ in the long run-
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Are they no longer requiring vocational classes in high schools?
No, it's worse than that.

They are pulling them to "save money for more important things". At least that's the story we are being given around here.


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Old 08-04-2011, 08:23 PM   #14
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Oh the stories I could tell about workmanship (or rather the lack thereof).....

The part that really drives me up the wall is that so many people don't have a clue what quality is anymore and just go with the cheapest bid. I've had so many people that I have given bids to that come back and say "well so and so said he'd do the job for $$$$ less than you, why are you so expensive?" When you try to explain things and ask what the other guy is actually giving them for that price, you can literally see your words going in one ear, out the other, and falling uselessly on the counter beside them. And whatever you do, don't suggest that they should dare go look at examples of your work and the other guys...... (I always thought that people dropping $12k+ on a car would go look around instead of just picking the cheapest car on the market, why on earth nobody would go look at different concrete driveways before plunking down $20k on one is beyond my ability to grasp.)

It is frustrating to say the least. And a sure way to get my blood to start boiling is when I come to look at a job and right away the "customer" goes "well, you know the economy is bad right now so you have to give a good price....." Uhh.... right..... I'll just go see if Home Depot will buy that line and cut the price of lumber for your job by half....

Frickin Idiots.....

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Old 08-04-2011, 09:55 PM   #15
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It is frustrating to say the least. And a sure way to get my blood to start boiling is when I come to look at a job and right away the "customer" goes "well, you know the economy is bad right now so you have to give a good price....." Uhh.... right..... I'll just go see if Home Depot will buy that line and cut the price of lumber for your job by half....

Frickin Idiots.....

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Yeah that is probably my favorite one too. I mean, I'm all for getting a good deal and not getting ripped off, but its like you say, you can't do a job for nothing. You have to buy parts and material, and thats all they want to pay for. We have to eat too people
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Well. I don't want to brag but I work with a roofing company that does GOOD work. Thing is...the company is composed of my friend, and my friends dad. My friends dad started roofing when he was 23. So he has been doing it a long time and knows how it is done, and my friend started roofing when he was like...12. The quality of work we do is top notch because my friends dad is the owner, CEO, boss, employee...everything. If the roof starts leaking...he can't blame someone higher up, can't make someone else do it. Blah blah...he fixes it because his company name is at stake. I like family businesses like that better then big businesses where blame can always be shifted and responsibility can be taken up by "someone else"
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I have to agree with all the above!! I like the old saying,"If you cannot find the time to do a job right the first time WHERE do you find the time to do it OVER?

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It depends on the company that orders the finished product. Sometimes the blueprint gives leeway on the tolerances.
I admire too picky people who want to "get it right" the first time....It saves $ in the long run-
Our standard tolerances vary depending on the location of the cuts, but the important areas usually get a +.0002"/-.001" tolerance. Over the entire mold that .0004" difference (using my .0006" from previous post) will push the casting out of spec (we usually get requests from the customers for +/-1.5 grams) and can cost the company some cash/product performance over the life of the mold.

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I'll just go see if Home Depot will buy that line and cut the price of lumber for your job by half....
What, you mean they don't and you won't work for free?!?!?
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Yeah that is probably my favorite one too. I mean, I'm all for getting a good deal and not getting ripped off, but its like you say, you can't do a job for nothing. You have to buy parts and material, and thats all they want to pay for. We have to eat too people
Yup, I've started telling the people that start really hammering about how bad the economy is that "I don't work for the exercise, I have plenty of things that I can work on for free at home."
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Thats why i cant work for anyone else than me.
like Dweano said, its my own name and reputation on the line, so i give the best product i can.
and being that i sell food, i cant make mistakes.
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