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Hello, I just had a Couple of Question been thinking about converting my 90 ford ranger 2.3l 5speed 2wd to a v8 ranger with 4wd. I was just wondering will the stock 7.5 rear end hold up to a v8 I have a locker in the rear end because I hate the open rear end it came with. The next question I was wondering what a good manual transmission to put behind the 302 and a transfer case thinking of doing a SAS and using a jeep dana 30. And the last question if I cant use the stock 7.5 and I go to the 9 inch were do I need to run my speed cable so that my speed gauge works.
My grandpa will be helping me I have been working for him on his farm I have a little money saved from it and he has a ford-150 302 I don't remember the year but it has a carb on it. he is used to putting v8s in S-10s so this will be a little different.
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Hi and welcome to TRS.
It's great that you are going to have your grampa helping. It sounds like a great learning experience.
To start I would just use the 7.5 for now and use the money towards your motor swap or SAS. There is a cheap way of making an open diff into a posi using extra side gear shims. The cost is the price of the shim/s and gear oil. If you blow the rear end then you can change it out for a stronger one but personally I would run it til I break it.
As far as the SAS I have no personal experience but generally the jeep d-30 is considered weak.
There is the "How to Tech" and "Other Articles" at the top of every page. Read thru those and the TRS magazine for lots of advise and ideas.
Start a build thread and post up pics and progress of your swaps.

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D30 isn't much weaker than the TTB D35 in the later 4x4 trucks. If you take it easy you will probably be ok. D44 or a D60 would be better but more involved (they are much wider and a different bolt pattern) I think James Duff makes a SAS kit for a Ranger.

Need more info on your donor truck, I would use as much of the powertrain from it as I could.
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Ok. thanks a lot, I will be looking for a donor truck for the 302, transmission and transfer case. all I have atm is an old carbureted 302 out of an old f-150 my grandpa had. It does not have a transmission or transfer case with it. I would like to have a 302 with a carb what year should I look for that has a 302 with a Carb on it, a good 5 or 4-speed tranny and transfer case.
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You can add an intake and different ignition to any pushrod 5.0 to make it carburated.

Your truck being fuel injected already it might be easier to just stay fuel injected though.

AOD for automatic or M5ODR2 for manual would be my picks, 97-03 4.2 V6 trucks have the best shifter location for the M5.

NP-205 is probably the best fitting t-case out of the box, make sure to use the support bracket because it is HEAVY and will tweak your aluminum transmission case if left unsupported.
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I think SAS swap depends on how your going to use it. if its a wheelin rig then a D44 would be nice. But if your just wanting to go play in the hills once in a wile i would take D35 out of a ranger. it would be cheaper to find (like at a junkyard) and you can rebuild / upgrade, you can upgrade all your steering parts from a D44 out of an older f150 for some strength.
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I think SAS swap depends on how your going to use it. if its a wheelin rig then a D44 would be nice. But if your just wanting to go play in the hills once in a wile i would take D35 out of a ranger. it would be cheaper to find (like at a junkyard) and you can rebuild / upgrade, you can upgrade all your steering parts from a D44 out of an older f150 for some strength.
The thing that complicates the heck out of it is he has a 2wd Ranger so to install a D35 in out of a Ranger he will need to cut out the engine crossmember from both trucks and weld/bolt the 4wd crossmember into his current 2wd truck.

For a SAS swap he could just leave his current crossmember alone or replace it with a smaller less obtrusive crossmember.

Personally I am putting a D35 in mine which is kinda sorta comparable to a D44... but mine has been 4wd since the beginning so it is a bolt in swap.
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Update talked to my grandpa about the sas he told me that it would be easier to use some chevy 63 leafs and blocks for a 4inch lift what do yall think? have one more question the ford 2.3l has power distribution box and coil packs would i leave it in when i do the 302 swap it has my relays for the fuel pump headlights and everything in it I don't know much about engine or electronics like him but would like to know what yall have to say about it I am more in to shooting rifles and reloading for completion shooting. but i fell in love with this ranger and want to learn

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The thing that complicates the heck out of it is he has a 2wd Ranger so to install a D35 in out of a Ranger he will need to cut out the engine crossmember from both trucks and weld/bolt the 4wd crossmember into his current 2wd truck.

For a SAS swap he could just leave his current crossmember alone or replace it with a smaller less obtrusive crossmember.

Personally I am putting a D35 in mine which is kinda sorta comparable to a D44... but mine has been 4wd since the beginning so it is a bolt in swap.
didnt think of that yah youre right id do a D35 then.
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Update talked to my grandpa about the sas he told me that it would be easier to use some chevy 63 leafs and blocks for a 4inch lift what do yall think? have one more question the ford 2.3l has power distribution box and coil packs would i leave it in when i do the 302 swap it has my relays for the fuel pump headlights and everything in it I don't know much about engine or electronics like him but would like to know what yall have to say about it I am more in to shooting rifles and reloading for completion shooting. but i fell in love with this ranger and want to learn

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You need to get some sacred texts, everything will be clear what does what. If you stay EFI get one for your donor vehicle too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Ford-R...9aaMOJ&vxp=mtr

For your spring swap you might get some good out of this:

http://www.therangerstation.com/how-...f-spring-swap/

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didnt think of that yah youre right id do a D30 then.
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