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Ok, I didn't read all of the posts, so if I repeat, I don't mean to. Who cares if when you're off road you finish the course first, isn't the point of off roading is to go where others don't go and to do it safely. Just by reading the "speeding over washboard roads" and such, are you fucking stupid. I went to school with a guy who got hit head on by a guy doing such and hopped onto my schoolmates side, how is not letting your wheels hit the ground a good idea? I don't care if you have a soft suspention, you will still lose contact with the road as your wheels are hopping or skipping over the tops of the washboard, and not reaching the bottom parts. Speeding on washboarded roads is just asking for something to go wrong.
I work in a garage and I drive many vehicles. I have had a few Pilots, and when I had one out on a test drive (it was coming from California and still had a lot of boxes and such in the back) it was the most gutless POS I had to deal with for quite a wile. I knew that it had much more power then I was getting, but the added weight was enough to rob it of so much.
As for the Ridgeline, a good buddy of mine has one. He's a Honda/Toyota fan, and he's even saying its not a truck. His words, not mine were something to this effect "Its not really a truck. Its a big car thats posing as one. If you jacked Vicky *his old Crown Victoria that was sadly written off at the ripe old age of 13 with 360 000km on it* and took the truck lid off you'ed probably be in comparison, even looks wise". He does not like it at all. It was bad when I had to go meet him at Blackfoot Motor Sports to pick up his bike (before the Rangers gory death) because he couldn't get it in the box and keep it safely secured.
The Ridgeline is no more a truck then a Civic is to being a racecar. If you want a truck, go out and buy a REAL truck, something with a full frame (and don't give me that "it has a full frame, its just welded to the body, you know what, they have a fancy name for that, its called a unibody). If you want a real truck buy a 1500 Chevy, or an F150, or a 1500 Dodge. If you want a work truck buy a 2500 (250) or larger vehicle. If you want a vehicle with the size and "strength" of a real truck, buy a damn unibody truck. They had those before. They have a name already, it was a cars front and a trucks back, getting any where with this? The El Camino! |Was it a car? Not really, was it a truck? Far from. I would like to see you pile in 30+ sheets of plywood into the back of an El Camino. I'm getting the image in my mind of that VW Jetta in the parking lot with the rear wheels tucked up underneith it, and the rear bumper sitting on the ground. I would like to see the same amount in the back of a Ridgeline, if you could fit it all in there. The Ridgeline is for the Soccer Mom, who wants a truck but wants all the comforts and the ride of her old Accord. All Honda's and Most Toyota's (I'm far from a Toyota fan, but I'ed put them over Honda) vehicles are for the average person who drives to work and home and maybe to the cabin on the weekend with the boat. You know what. My Caravan with the 3L can pull a damn boat (mine doesn't have a hitch, but I have seen it doen, and have drove my aunts with a boat on the back), and the road going to the cabin will most likely to be the harsh off road of dirt. The Ridgeline is for the guy who wants the ego of a guy with a huge truck, but doesn't have the balls enough to use it as a huge truck. I have seen, and driven real working truck 2006 and newer that have had 200 000km on them and have been beat to shit but still kick and can haul most of what you'll throw at it, and what it can't handle is most likely something it shouldn't be towing anyways. I have never seen a Honda or a Toyota truck used as a real work truck (construction) and last anywhere near as long as a Dodge, Chevy, or Ford will. I have driven many Ford and Chevy trucks that are old and even new ones with extremly high milage (for their age too), and they still keep on bending over and taking what you give to it. Its not uncommon for me to see a Chevy or a Ford truck with 300 000km on it, and have it be 2 or 3 years old, and the body makes it look like it should have been crushed 10 years ago. The longest lasting trucks I see here are Ford and Chevy. I don't think I have ever seen a Toyota truck last with that abuse for the miles (well, the helux could, but its more in the catagory of the Ranger). If I'm going to buy a real truck for work IT WILL have a FORD or a DODGE or a CHEVROLET on the grill. If I want something to give to my wife to make her feel like she can go anywhere and haul anything I'll buy her a Ridgline or anther Honda or Toyota "Truck".
Also, its not a god damn race. Life is not a damn race, we all end up in the same place and its to see how gets there last thats the goal. Speeding while hauling a large load is just stupid and even doing some posted limits with a large load is just as stupid. You have your stopping ability reduced greatly, and you have your manuverability greatly reduced. So what if the Ridgeline or the Tundra or whatever can do 0-60 with a full load the fastest, who the hell cares, is it safe to do so? probably not. I don't give a flying **** if you can get to where you are going faster because of the truck, did you get there without causing harm or endangering yourself or anyone else? I see all these assholes driveing around Calgary like they're the only person on the roads. When something happens, not if, when something happens they act like its a total shock to them and they never expected it. Most of you know I was in a very serious accident about 6 weeks ago, I was forced off the road by a semi and rolled my truck into the ditch at highways speeds and ended on my roof 100 feet from where I left the ground 50 feet down the hill. I was one of the few lucky ones and was able to walk away. Was I at fault? No. The guy that caused it was not driving withen his means and fucked me over because of it. Even if he was paying attention, I doubt he would have done anything different as the road conditions wern't optiomal and he probably would have gone into a skid like me. If he was paying attention to being safe and not getting there fast he would have been going a lot slower then he was. Speed comes after being safe, and all of these "safety features" they're adding to vehicles is actually a hinder then a help. Sure they help and prevent collisions, but what they are doing is teaching people that becasue they have four wheel drive, or all wheel drive, or traction control, or whatever other option their fucking car has, they think they can speed on an icy road or gravel road or in conditions where speed is the most dangerious thing you could possibly give. Like the washboard conditions, so if traction control keeps you going straight no matter what, if that driving within your means, or the vehicles? So the vehicle can handle it, could you if in the event of a system failure? I constantly see assholes switching lanes in these SUV, the big trucks and whatnots, like they are bloody invincible on ice or snow. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT DOESN"T MEAN THE REST OF THE FUCKING WORLD HAS IT!!!! These SAFTEY systems are installed to work with SMART driving and that means driving within the means of the weather. Just because the Ridgeline or what ever other "truck" you guys could be talking about or bringing into future posts, has this or that option that helps keep you safe, is it really needed there to keep you safe when you are driving safly and withen the means of the road, or is it there as a fallback for when you were to fucking stupid to read the road conditions and drive carefully for the conditions. And don't think that all this is pent up rage against the ridgeline, this is for every vehicle out there, I just thought I'ed throw it in with the "speeding over washboarded roads" comment.
****!!!! End Rant.
IGRNOT, I'm with you on the GO CALGARY FLAMES!!! GO FLAMES GO!!!
I work in a garage and I drive many vehicles. I have had a few Pilots, and when I had one out on a test drive (it was coming from California and still had a lot of boxes and such in the back) it was the most gutless POS I had to deal with for quite a wile. I knew that it had much more power then I was getting, but the added weight was enough to rob it of so much.
As for the Ridgeline, a good buddy of mine has one. He's a Honda/Toyota fan, and he's even saying its not a truck. His words, not mine were something to this effect "Its not really a truck. Its a big car thats posing as one. If you jacked Vicky *his old Crown Victoria that was sadly written off at the ripe old age of 13 with 360 000km on it* and took the truck lid off you'ed probably be in comparison, even looks wise". He does not like it at all. It was bad when I had to go meet him at Blackfoot Motor Sports to pick up his bike (before the Rangers gory death) because he couldn't get it in the box and keep it safely secured.
The Ridgeline is no more a truck then a Civic is to being a racecar. If you want a truck, go out and buy a REAL truck, something with a full frame (and don't give me that "it has a full frame, its just welded to the body, you know what, they have a fancy name for that, its called a unibody). If you want a real truck buy a 1500 Chevy, or an F150, or a 1500 Dodge. If you want a work truck buy a 2500 (250) or larger vehicle. If you want a vehicle with the size and "strength" of a real truck, buy a damn unibody truck. They had those before. They have a name already, it was a cars front and a trucks back, getting any where with this? The El Camino! |Was it a car? Not really, was it a truck? Far from. I would like to see you pile in 30+ sheets of plywood into the back of an El Camino. I'm getting the image in my mind of that VW Jetta in the parking lot with the rear wheels tucked up underneith it, and the rear bumper sitting on the ground. I would like to see the same amount in the back of a Ridgeline, if you could fit it all in there. The Ridgeline is for the Soccer Mom, who wants a truck but wants all the comforts and the ride of her old Accord. All Honda's and Most Toyota's (I'm far from a Toyota fan, but I'ed put them over Honda) vehicles are for the average person who drives to work and home and maybe to the cabin on the weekend with the boat. You know what. My Caravan with the 3L can pull a damn boat (mine doesn't have a hitch, but I have seen it doen, and have drove my aunts with a boat on the back), and the road going to the cabin will most likely to be the harsh off road of dirt. The Ridgeline is for the guy who wants the ego of a guy with a huge truck, but doesn't have the balls enough to use it as a huge truck. I have seen, and driven real working truck 2006 and newer that have had 200 000km on them and have been beat to shit but still kick and can haul most of what you'll throw at it, and what it can't handle is most likely something it shouldn't be towing anyways. I have never seen a Honda or a Toyota truck used as a real work truck (construction) and last anywhere near as long as a Dodge, Chevy, or Ford will. I have driven many Ford and Chevy trucks that are old and even new ones with extremly high milage (for their age too), and they still keep on bending over and taking what you give to it. Its not uncommon for me to see a Chevy or a Ford truck with 300 000km on it, and have it be 2 or 3 years old, and the body makes it look like it should have been crushed 10 years ago. The longest lasting trucks I see here are Ford and Chevy. I don't think I have ever seen a Toyota truck last with that abuse for the miles (well, the helux could, but its more in the catagory of the Ranger). If I'm going to buy a real truck for work IT WILL have a FORD or a DODGE or a CHEVROLET on the grill. If I want something to give to my wife to make her feel like she can go anywhere and haul anything I'll buy her a Ridgline or anther Honda or Toyota "Truck".
Also, its not a god damn race. Life is not a damn race, we all end up in the same place and its to see how gets there last thats the goal. Speeding while hauling a large load is just stupid and even doing some posted limits with a large load is just as stupid. You have your stopping ability reduced greatly, and you have your manuverability greatly reduced. So what if the Ridgeline or the Tundra or whatever can do 0-60 with a full load the fastest, who the hell cares, is it safe to do so? probably not. I don't give a flying **** if you can get to where you are going faster because of the truck, did you get there without causing harm or endangering yourself or anyone else? I see all these assholes driveing around Calgary like they're the only person on the roads. When something happens, not if, when something happens they act like its a total shock to them and they never expected it. Most of you know I was in a very serious accident about 6 weeks ago, I was forced off the road by a semi and rolled my truck into the ditch at highways speeds and ended on my roof 100 feet from where I left the ground 50 feet down the hill. I was one of the few lucky ones and was able to walk away. Was I at fault? No. The guy that caused it was not driving withen his means and fucked me over because of it. Even if he was paying attention, I doubt he would have done anything different as the road conditions wern't optiomal and he probably would have gone into a skid like me. If he was paying attention to being safe and not getting there fast he would have been going a lot slower then he was. Speed comes after being safe, and all of these "safety features" they're adding to vehicles is actually a hinder then a help. Sure they help and prevent collisions, but what they are doing is teaching people that becasue they have four wheel drive, or all wheel drive, or traction control, or whatever other option their fucking car has, they think they can speed on an icy road or gravel road or in conditions where speed is the most dangerious thing you could possibly give. Like the washboard conditions, so if traction control keeps you going straight no matter what, if that driving within your means, or the vehicles? So the vehicle can handle it, could you if in the event of a system failure? I constantly see assholes switching lanes in these SUV, the big trucks and whatnots, like they are bloody invincible on ice or snow. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT DOESN"T MEAN THE REST OF THE FUCKING WORLD HAS IT!!!! These SAFTEY systems are installed to work with SMART driving and that means driving within the means of the weather. Just because the Ridgeline or what ever other "truck" you guys could be talking about or bringing into future posts, has this or that option that helps keep you safe, is it really needed there to keep you safe when you are driving safly and withen the means of the road, or is it there as a fallback for when you were to fucking stupid to read the road conditions and drive carefully for the conditions. And don't think that all this is pent up rage against the ridgeline, this is for every vehicle out there, I just thought I'ed throw it in with the "speeding over washboarded roads" comment.
****!!!! End Rant.
IGRNOT, I'm with you on the GO CALGARY FLAMES!!! GO FLAMES GO!!!
Don't have trailor, and probably never will......no need for it. That boat I dream of would require a Kentworth......not a dinky little Ford, or an even dinkier POS Honda.
