Will a big bellhousing c4 fit?

[306deranged]

Hi guys, its been awhile since ive posted a question and im in need of some advice again lol. Ive got a 88 ranger im putting a 1994 302 HO motor in. I want to use the stock 164 tooth 50 oz imbalance flexplate. Therefore, I am looking at purchasing a "big" bellhousing c4 to accomodate the 164 tooth flexplate. Question is will it fit? Im gonna use Hedman shortys. By "fitting" i mean any clearance issues with fitting it inside the truck.

 

[306deranged]

anybody?

 

[fordmike1]

Hi guys, its been awhile since ive posted a question and im in need of some advice again lol. Ive got a 88 ranger im putting a 1994 302 HO motor in. I want to use the stock 164 tooth 50 oz imbalance flexplate. Therefore, I am looking at purchasing a "big" bellhousing c4 to accomodate the 164 tooth flexplate. Question is will it fit? Im gonna use Hedman shortys. By "fitting" i mean any clearance issues with fitting it inside the truck.

You should be able to make it work as I put a 4R70W trans in my Ranger and it uses the 164 tooth flexplate and I have tri-Y headers that I had to do a little tweaking on. If mine fits you should be able to make yours work. Good luck.

 

[whisperer]

There are 3 bellhousing c4's. The 157, 164, and the big block bellhousing that won't fit your small block. Your 164 will fit fine and won't have any issues fitting the truck. If you use headers that are designed for the early mustang 157 you may have clearance issues where the headers pass the starter and the bellhousing. My try-Y's needed to be bent to clear my 164. Every header is a little bit different and you may need to do some adjustments but it's all do-able. As far as clearing the firewall and floor there is no issues short of folding back the flange/lip with a BFH.

 

[baddad457]

FYI: there was one more C-4 Bell, that was for the V8 Mustang II. It used a 147 tooth flexplate.

 

[306deranged]

ok thanks guys, yea i dont mind doing a little hammering on the firewall as long as it doesnt look too crappy... and another thing is is it ok t have a small bell c4 and then switch to the big bell. See, the trans im buying comes with both but was orinigally a small bellhousing behind a 408 10.5 car, but it comes with both bellhousings so i was planning on just taking the small off and bolting on the big one....any problems??....and i can use my stock starter right

 

[Sighman]

I had to get the mustang starter when I used the small bell housing on mine as the stock starter was hitting the headers.....

 

[whisperer]

Because you are running a 94 5.0 you will need to use the 164 if you are using stock parts. The 5.0 balances to 50 oz and there was no 50 oz flexplate in 157 tooth from Ford. You can buy them aftermarket for swapping a late engine to an early mustang.
The only advantage I see to the 157 Tooth set up is it moves the starter in a bit which may make header clearance better on certain headers. You can run a mini-starter but you still have issues with the drivers side with some headers.
I am not fond of building a street car where you must run a mini-starter anyway. If your starter bags it out in Podunk USA you're screwed if you can't bolt a standard size starter in the hole.....

 

[baddad457]

ok thanks guys, yea i dont mind doing a little hammering on the firewall as long as it doesnt look too crappy... and another thing is is it ok t have a small bell c4 and then switch to the big bell. See, the trans im buying comes with both but was orinigally a small bellhousing behind a 408 10.5 car, but it comes with both bellhousings so i was planning on just taking the small off and bolting on the big one....any problems??....and i can use my stock starter right

You gain everything by going with a 157 tooth bell. There are no negatives. As for the firewall, you can hammer back the body seam (all the way flat) just behind the firewall in the trans tunnel to gain much needed clearances overall. This is a plus, no matter whch bell you choose. Same starter works with either bell. Just make sure to use the correct block plate between the engine and bell. This indexes the starter to the flexplate.

 

[Teddyzee]

My two cents... Mini starters were stock starting in 1992, so they are very common and easy to find.

And as far as the firewall seem, I made a couple slices then easily bent it over. I have lots of clearance, but it did make it easier to fit the shifter past (dropped it all in the complete)

before

after

notice the Chevy tool in the foregound...

 

[Snoranger]

notice the Chevy tool in the foregound...

"body by Fisher"

 

[306deranged]

nice, thanks for the pictures...so the stock starter should clear...im gonna try it i found one at advance its a reman for $80 bucks and i believe dorman makes it not sure tho...i just finished up with the top end on the motor now im just waiting to get the trans tommorrow...what size stall would you guys get....the truck is going to be raced but also driven on the street....it has a 8.8 swap and is sittin on weld draglites with et streets...maybe like 2000 or 2200?????

 

[v-8power]

what size stall would you guys get

This would be determined by the cam you chose and gear ratio in the rear end. IMO

 

[COPPERHEAD85]

"body by Fisher"

Fisher Price!

Sorry I really hate Government Motors Company products...........

V8 power is right on..........
What cam,gear will help on the stall...

 

[306deranged]

alright im just gonna go get it even tho it has the small bellhousing....so instead of using my stock flywheel now ill just have to get a 157 tooth flexplate with a 50 oz imbalance correct?