who has converted to manual brakes?

[adsm08]

I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think this is how the manual setup runs...

The pedal arm is overall the same length, but the pivot is higher up, giving you more travel on the foot end, and more force at the top. If you move the pivot up half way that should produce the needed ratio.

You might also be able to weld something to the end of the arm, or fab an extension into the middle of it somewhere.

I'd PM AllanD and get his input. He is to the Ford Ranger what Chuck Norris is to Awesome.

 

[cammeddrz]

yeah, i am totally capable of fabbing. so long as i know that that is the difference. it is a matter of leverage, is the throw different too?

 

[adsm08]

Well any time you change the length of a lever to alter leverage you change the throw. That's basic physics. But like I said, I don't know the exact differences.

 

[cammeddrz]

a lever can be lengthened to give more leverage without changing the throw at a certain point in relation to the fulcrum

 

[NMB2]

http://www.cncbrakes.com/

everything you need is there.

 

[cammeddrz]

everything you need is there.[/QU...But if all else fails I plan to go that route

 

[NMB2]

If you want oem, you need to use something like an F350 master. You need to find the biggest bore cylinder basically, or its going to be hell to push the pedal.

 

[r1hatman]

Got manuals on my 67 stang. Not a fan!

 

[OilPatch197]

Got manuals on my 67 stang. Not a fan!

Got Manuals on my 87 Ranger, I AM a fan!

Obviously you can't stop as fast compared to power brakes, BUT I avoid City traffic, and live in a rual area, AND can use the manual transmission to slow down also.

 

[cammeddrz]

Got Manuals on my 87 Ranger, I AM a fan!

Obviously you can't stop as fast compared to power brakes, BUT I avoid City traffic, and live in a rual area, AND can use the manual transmission to slow down also.

if you have manual brakes can you do me a favor and take some pics up under the dash? maybe take some measurements of the pedal?

 

[John Smith]

I did a little research about this

some time ago..and found a couple of donor rangers with the manual parts...

as near as i can determine..the pedal hanger is the same.. but since the manual master cylinder mounts directly to the firewall..it attaches a little higher using the top mount bolt holes thru the frewall. this causes the attachment of the rod to be an inch or so higher to the pedal. think a guy could mod the pwr brake pedal to have the rod attach higher actually if you can't find a manual brake pedal...i plan to rob one of these local donors myself...

if you can get a factory ford manual it will show both diagrams...i think a replacement manual master comes with a new pushrod..

again...it seems to just mount on the top two holes so it's mounted higher on the pedal...i don't think the ratio of push really is a big deal...could be much different for just one inch higher up the same brake pedal...

actually it makes it easier to exert more pressure for less movement because of the shorter moment arm theory.....

 

[cammeddrz]

some time ago..and found a couple of donor rangers with the manual parts...

as near as i can determine..the pedal hanger is the same.. but since the manual master cylinder mounts directly to the firewall..it attaches a little higher using the top mount bolt holes thru the frewall. this causes the attachment of the rod to be an inch or so higher to the pedal. think a guy could mod the pwr brake pedal to have the rod attach higher actually if you can't find a manual brake pedal...i plan to rob one of these local donors myself...

if you can get a factory ford manual it will show both diagrams...i think a replacement manual master comes with a new pushrod..

again...it seems to just mount on the top two holes so it's mounted higher on the pedal...i don't think the ratio of push really is a big deal...could be much different for just one inch higher up the same brake pedal...

actually it makes it easier to exert more pressure for less movement because of the shorter moment arm theory.....

yes the manual master cylinder came with a new pushrod. too bad you have manual pedals where you are because i have none......they've been robbed.

if you track one down i'd pay you to ship it to me

 

[Tony Raine]

dont have much to add, but i am subscribing to this thread out of curiosity. my b2 will have 4 wheel discs when i am done, and i would really like manual brakes for some of the reasons listed above, and some more.

i have driven a 65 stang, several 86 chevy 1/2 ton work trucks, and a few other vehicles with manual brakes. all stopped just fine for my type of driving.


hey, i could take some petal measurements from one of those chevy's at work. give me a couple days.

 

[Will]

What camshaft are you using? I had an Erson Hi FLow II on a 351C 4V with 235/235 @ .050 on 108* centers. Definately a rough, low vacuum idler, but I added a vacuum resevoir and it was fine.

 

[OilPatch197]

if you have manual brakes can you do me a favor and take some pics up under the dash? maybe take some measurements of the pedal?

Yeah dude, try to get them up tomorrow.