Wheeling With Some Friends Today 12/23

[Mechanickid]

ditch the body lift and you've got yourself a pretty cool truck.

+1

 

[Z3CHYD]

Piss off guys. He's learing and you learn from your mistakes. If you want perfect wheeling lines and technique then go over to pirate and bitch about their wheeling.

Atleast hes out there wheeling the truck not like some..............

Give him a break. Hes learing the limits of his truck.

+1 to that

 

[Greg5567]

Haha, thanks for everyones support, im going out to obx this coming monday if I can get my wheel bearings in time. Ill post up some pictures of that also


about the body lift, im not sure if im going to just lose the body...or go to 6" coils WITH the body and use the skyjacker leafs in the rear for 6" and ditch those blocks (not sure...still got some thinking to do)


Thanks Everyone(that had something positive to say atleast...)

 

[LittleBigFoot]

I learned this from pirate. Giving advice and being a fucking ass hat are two different things. It's all about the approach you take on the sentence.

I believe strongly in purpose. At least he's using his truck for a purpose it's meant for. Not looking pretty in the driveway, or fucking web wheeling.

Here's my advice:

Wheeling is a sport just like foot ball or beer pong. It takes time to learn the right lines to take, the right techniques, and even build setups. Wheel your heart out bud. Learn the limits of your rig. Don't take shit from any of these assholes sitting at their fucking computer with nothing to do but bitch cause they're too big of pussies to be out on the trails right now. Those who can't do bitch at others for doing. I fucking hate web wheelers.

Figure out what kind of wheeling you actually want to use your truck for. At that height and with the bigger meats, it would make a great mud truck except for the axles. I know money's tight, but maybe start looking into a SAS or stronger parts like aftermarket u joints and possibly even molly shafts.

If you're runnin trails, the height can be a bad thing. I'd say keep the body flift cause it gives you plenty of tire clearence and a low COG. **** nay-sayers. I'd drop it down to 6" coils and maybe you'll have a shot at getting it alligned. Look into jeep lift coils for an XJ or ZJ. Soft spring rate and I hear they get tons of flex out of a TTB. I think 86Ford ran jeep coils in his B2 for a while. If you go that route you'd definatly want to look at dual shocks and a swaybar with quick discos for the trails.

As far as your tire up in the air in the rear, there's a few options. I don't know your set up right now, weather it's blocks or shackles or lift leaves, but here's what I'd suggest: An extended shackle can free up insane amounts of flex. Right now I'm runnin 63" Chebbies, extended shackles (inverted chebby drop kit) and a 2" block, no sway bars, and stock shocks with home brew shock mounts on my 9". I'm getting 21" of wheel travel in the rear with that set up. The only thing hindering me is my t case cross member won't let the drive shaft droop further and the shocks are only 26" long.


Props man. Wheel away.

 

[Greg5567]

3" Body as you know
8" Skyjacker Suspension w/ stacked blocks in the rear.....which im slowly trying to save up money for the 6" skyjacker coils and skyjacker leafs that give 6" lift http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SJA-FR36S&N=700+115&autoview=sku

 

[240cubes]

I will.Ask littlebigfoot I take the lines I know I can take.

i sure hope so

 

[rangerbum]

I really am amazed it didnt roll. I'm not trying to hastle. It's practically a compliment. Having a truck that high (11" total lift right?) and taking those lines and not rolling is either impressive engineering, or impressive evasive driving. Hell, I rolled my jeep with a total of 6" lift on 38's.

....but, I personally dont think it can go on forever. +1 on ditching the bodlift.

 

[86ford]

Wheeling is a sport just like foot ball or beer pong. It takes time to learn the right lines to take, the right techniques, and even build setups. Wheel your heart out bud. Learn the limits of your rig. Don't take shit from any of these assholes sitting at their fucking computer with nothing to do but bitch cause they're too big of pussies to be out on the trails right now. Those who can't do bitch at others for doing. I fucking hate web wheelers.






yup, i am a web wheeler, i admit, i stole the pics!

yea, right. i stole the dents too.......


Look into jeep lift coils for an XJ or ZJ. Soft spring rate and I hear they get tons of flex out of a TTB. I think 86Ford ran jeep coils in his B2 for a while. If you go that route you'd definatly want to look at dual shocks and a swaybar with quick discos for the trails.


the jeep coils are good for light trucks (standard cab short bed), and b2's. he will be best running early bronco coils but to get it right he has to figure out the spring rates and do the calculations. i am willing to help him figure that out. he REALLY does need to either toss the body lift or do down to a 6 inch lift IF those brackets will let him, if they wont, toss the body lift, it will be cheaper. someone put TONS of money into that truck at one point so use all the money they spent to your advantage. FYI other than needing to move my radius arm brackets inward i am running 35s with no rubbing.


Props man. Wheel away.

ADAM,

you are not 100% correct on those axles not being strong enough for mud bogging. mud bogs more often than not do not put that much stress on axles so you can run small axles without to much trouble. MANY guys run 36s on a d28 with 6-10 inches of total lift without much if any failure. the people who have to worry about breaking parts are the ones that run trails with lots of rocks and hills because you WILL have abrupt traction on occasion that WILL eventually break something.



Greg,

keep wheeling and keep asking questions. some of the other youngsters around here talk tons of shit but take there stock trucks on the bunny trails because that is all there parents will let them do. take peoples advice with a grain of salt because a fair number of them have not even locked the hubs on there truck for anything but snow. if you wheel it hard you better know how to fix it trail side, in the dark of wheel with someone who knows so they can show you if something happens. keep it safe, well just dont kill or mangle yourself.

86

 

[PaleBlue90]

in addtion to ditching the body lift id toss those blocks. that has always seemed like a bad idea IMHO

 

[Shran]

in addtion to ditching the body lift id toss those blocks. that has always seemed like a bad idea IMHO

Well, at least the stacked blocks. Blocks themselves aren't so bad but stacking them is retarded.

 

[johnsislandranger]

Yeah....I just got home today and got on to read it all. Sure, I couldve hit that first one going straight, and not almost tipped over, but thats my decision to see how far I can take my truck, and I knew it probably wasnt "Safe" but seriously theres A LOT of things that arent safe that people do and I told the people I was with to get out of the truck before I did it, for THEIR SAFETY.


Also, if you search in my introduction part, you will see pictures of the 38.5" Tires. Im 16, I dont have a money tree growing, and my parents dont give me money, so I cant afford to do everything that I want to do with my truck already. I have 3" Body 8" Skyjacker, I did plan on dropping down to 6" Suspension and keep the Body (Open to suggestions about that). You know what I also shouldve done though?

I should have just got a roll cage, a 302, some boggers, 6pt harness, dropped my lift a little, fab up steel front/rear bumpers......You get the point....Theres a lot I couldve done to my truck, and I probably shouldnt have even wheeled it as I was saying how I had the fuel problem, but thank you mechanickid for getting on my ass about NOT wheeling it, and then when I do, tell me everything else I probably shouldve done.


When I see posts like this with some possibly dangerous situations, sure I will say something like "Man that doesnt look safe, but as long as your having fun, and dont get hurt!" put my .02 in, but I wont go off on them about what they should and shouldnt have done.

So...that being said, everyone that wants to bitch at me and im gonna keep on gettin at it, and wheel my truck as much as I want, flip it or not, ill still post up the pics.

and

To everyone that had my back while I was unable to get on (or..regardless if I couldve gotten on) thank you friends.



EDIT: I forgot, but I figured since I remembered....My truck, looks fine with the 35's and the lift ive got, it could probably come down a little bit, but it DOES look good the way it is right now.

couldnt have said it better myself

 

[86ford]

Well, at least the stacked blocks. Blocks themselves aren't so bad but stacking them is retarded.

it all comes down to money. we all know that. if he stumbles on a cheap way to add the 3 inches of lift from the blocks the sweet. until then he has to deal with the axle wrap.

86

 

[Shran]

it all comes down to money. we all know that. if he stumbles on a cheap way to add the 3 inches of lift from the blocks the sweet. until then he has to deal with the axle wrap.

86

It's the safety aspect of stacked blocks that worries me.

 

[Mechanickid]

+1
Yeah Ive seen them fall out.

 

[Loanranger]

Cheapest option, just buy the rear leafs so you can ditch the stacked blocks, leave the front the way it is, and you can always cut your pucks down for a 1 or 2 inch bodylift, if you just need a little more clearance.

You are going to learn so much more about wheeling in an underbuilt rig than you would in an overbuilt rig. Remember that. And have fun.