What have they done to the forest?

[Josh B]

If you pay attention driving, or flying, from Texas to the Georgia coast you will notice more pine trees than you can count. Had you done that in 1800 you would have seen instead more cotton fields, corn fields etc than you could count.

 

[DILLARD000]

If you pay attention driving, or flying, from Texas to the Georgia coast you will notice more pine trees than you can count. Had you done that in 1800 you would have seen instead more cotton fields, corn fields etc than you could count.

Most of the PineForest lands TX-GA are owned & clearcut & replanted every 20-30yrs by big lumber companies: LaPacific, GaPacific, etc.

 

[JoshT]

The "FlatEarth" theory is interesting; still looking for that edge;
can you go there & look over the railing like at the GrandCanyon?
Probably charge an entry fee at the gate; CheapBas'ard I am, I'd likely turn around & go elsewhere.

Of course they're going to charge an entry fee. They've got to carry insurance incase one of you dummies fall off when you decide to climb over the railing to get a better look at the turtle and elephants. Got to feed that big a$$ turtle and elephant too. It all costs money.

Flat earth, what a crock of bull. It was understandable for a peoples that would only ever travel as far from where they were born as the eye could see. While that's likely still the case for 80% of the population, it's a rediculous notion for any modern human with access to informaation.

 

[JoshT]

Most of the PineForest lands TX-GA are owned & clearcut & replanted every 20-30yrs by big lumber companies: LaPacific, GaPacific, etc.

F*** the pine trees...

Pollen makes me sick and turns everything yellow. I want to remove d@** every one on my property, but not enough for a timber company to consider harvesting and too expensive to get rid of without one. Even if one would come get them, the land would still be unusable due to stumps left behind. Same issue, too expensive to get rid of.

 

[DILLARD000]

Of course they're going to charge an entry fee. They've got to carry insurance incase one of you dummies fall off when you decide to climb over the railing to get a better look at the turtle and elephants. Got to feed that big a$$ turtle and elephant too. It all costs money.

Flat earth, what a crock of bull. It was understandable for a peoples that would only ever travel as far from where they were born as the eye could see. While that's likely still the case for 80% of the population, it's a rediculous notion for any modern human with access to informaation.

Alternative facts, just alternative facts.

 

[1990RangerinSK]

Of course they're going to charge an entry fee. They've got to carry insurance incase one of you dummies fall off when you decide to climb over the railing to get a better look at the turtle and elephants. Got to feed that big a$$ turtle and elephant too. It all costs money.

Flat earth, what a crock of bull. It was understandable for a peoples that would only ever travel as far from where they were born as the eye could see. While that's likely still the case for 80% of the population, it's a rediculous notion for any modern human with access to informaation.

I can prove that the earth isn't flat. If it was, cats would have pushed everything off by now. 'Nuff said.

 

[ekrampitzjr]

The flat earthers never explain this:

Okay, if the Earth is flat, you're saying it's shaped like a disc, and everything we know is on one side. So what's on the other side of the disc?

 

[ekrampitzjr]

Companies such as Wayerhaeuser have been responsibly treating trees as crops since the late 19th Century. The big problem with logging is leaving a mess without planting any trees to replace what was removed.

In southeastern Virginia there was a lumber railroad that ran through three counties and shut down operations around 1930. It wasn't because of the Depression, but because the operation had clearcut every tree it could reach over 30 years and didn't plant replacements. The worst part is that the railroad had operated a power plant for its headquarters town, and that plant shut down when the railroad went out of business. Electricity wasn't available again in that town for several years. A little foresight could have kept the railroad going.

 

[Josh B]

Most of the PineForest lands TX-GA are owned & clearcut & replanted every 20-30yrs by big lumber companies: LaPacific, GaPacific, etc.

This is very true sir, I do not dispute it, however, my comment was not about conditions only now, it was about physical conditions both then and now

 

[DILLARD000]

The flat earthers never explain this:

Okay, if the Earth is flat, you're saying it's shaped like a disc, and everything we know is on one side. So what's on the other side of the disc?

Whats on the other side? Likely Asian tourists leaning over the railing watching American tourist leaning over the railing on the opposite side! Though I like the idea of a 6 sided cube instead of a flat disc.

 

[Josh B]

The flat earthers never explain this:

Okay, if the Earth is flat, you're saying it's shaped like a disc, and everything we know is on one side. So what's on the other side of the disc?

Bob Dylan

 

[JoshT]

Bob Dylan

Jimmy Hoffa hanging out with Elvis and Tupac is more likely.

 

[1990RangerinSK]

The flat earthers never explain this:

Okay, if the Earth is flat, you're saying it's shaped like a disc, and everything we know is on one side. So what's on the other side of the disc?

I've also never seen a good explanation for:

1. Sunrise
   1. The fact that it rises at a different time depending on where you are on earth
   2. It rises at a different time every day depending on time of year
2. Sunset
   1. The fact that it sets at a different time depending on where you are on earth
   2. It sets at a different time every day depending on the time of year
3. The fact that because of the sun rising and setting at different times we have time zones.
4. The fact that when you go up in a plane, the horizon curves

That should keep 'em scratching their heads for a few decades.

 

[sgtsandman]

The leaving crap lying around isn’t so much of a problem if it is done right. Animals use the brush piles as shelter and other things.

The type of logging makes a difference too. Just taking the older trees and leaving the younger ones keeps the habitat in place, opens up the land for the wildlife and helps the younger trees grow, and if the left overs are handled correctly, minimizes forest fire problems.

Clear cutting on the other hand can be a good practice if done right and the land is replanted but I don’t think it’s the most efficient or caring of the Earth oriented method.

A renewable resource is only renewable if it’s managed correctly.

 

[ekrampitzjr]

The leaving crap lying around isn’t so much of a problem if it is done right. Animals use the brush piles as shelter and other things.

The type of logging makes a difference too. Just taking the older trees and leaving the younger ones keeps the habitat in place, opens up the land for the wildlife and helps the younger trees grow, and if the left overs are handled correctly, minimizes forest fire problems.

Clear cutting on the other hand can be a good practice if done right and the land is replanted but I don’t think it’s the most efficient or caring of the Earth oriented method.

A renewable resource is only renewable if it’s managed correctly.

Out here landowners will get their property logged out for quick $$, not necessarily because they want to use the cleared land. My brother and I had discussed doing this with our late mother's land, but we realized that doing this would make the land harder to sell later. We sold it with older trees intact last year. The buyer, a neighbor, gave us our asking price without haggling.

The big problem isn't just the brush and debris, but the tree stumps left everywhere. A lot of landowners don't realize those will remain. But it could be some lumber companies leave more mess behind than do others.

Taking out desirable trees such as (for example) oaks many years ago and not even planting acorns to start new oaks has made good oak wood scarce today. Too many people do things for a quick buck now and hang the future consequences. Your point about management is the same as mine.