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What can happen when you think "it's not that deep"


Like said earlier its always 4wds you see in the ditch first when the roads get shitty.

It always amazes me though rather alot of people even know how to use it. Ive seen numerous 4wd slid in the median in a few inches of snow, no damage, and they just sit there. Literally snow i could get my 2wd ranger out of.

Storm over xmas i seen a newer silverado (with 4x4 stickers) in the median...3 inches of snow max (the road was ice) and hes just sitting there like "wtf do i do now?"

But they sit and wait for a ticket and/or wrecker. Anyone else notice this?

I’m usually too busy trying to get to work and not getting taken out by these idiots to notice.

If the roads are bad enough, I’ll opt for the secondary roads just to stay away from them. At that time in the morning, there usually isn’t much difference between the highways and the secondary roads anyway, just who’s driving on them and at what speed they are driving.
 
Third victim found in submerged vehicle, search continues in Nel - (cbs19news.com)

It's not an update just different video. I think what we are seeing is a cement low water crossing that you see fairly often, it's paved, in a sense, and when there is just a little water running over it then it's fine. But you see a lot of water (assume it was about the same at the time of the incident) and then downstream it gets suddenly deeper so once you are off the crossing you are toast. I imagine the vehicle then doesn't stay upright and you'd think, ok, just open the door and get out... but probably not so easy.

Probably, if I'm right about the cement crossing, which I think I am, it could also have slime/algae on it which makes it slippery so not good purchase. I think it is a private drive and they probably thought, I do this all the time... versus off-roading per se.

They don't even know when it happened exactly, apparently someone saw the vehicle in the river, called it in. I haven't found any updates which is kind of weird. I guess they are assuming there were 2 other people but they don't know for sure (?). But you'd think they would eventually figure out is anyone missing, or not? If they are missing then normally they drag the river. There are a lot of drownings around here, these rivers that don't look huge or dangerous, when the water is high, they are treacherous - New River, James River, all of them. They usually end up finding the bodies but often far downstream.

I only heard about this after we had just got home from my little expedition where I did a few crossings then the last one I was like, well, I think it's probably fine, but I think I'll stop here and come back when the water is lower. Probably overly cautions, but then I got home and read about that incident and I was like, yeah, probably good call.

Even if you don't have a big problem, as they say, that's your ride home. I don't know what insurance says about towing... they are supposed to cover within 60 miles or something, but does that include being miles up a dirt road? I'd think yes, but the fine print might say otherwise then you'd have one heck of a bill. Then you'd wish you'd not gone alone because another 4x4 could probably pull you out if it's just stuck.
 
I’m usually too busy trying to get to work and not getting taken out by these idiots to notice.

If the roads are bad enough, I’ll opt for the secondary roads just to stay away from them. At that time in the morning, there usually isn’t much difference between the highways and the secondary roads anyway, just who’s driving on them and at what speed they are driving.
Ive done this before numerous times. Id rather take the chance of burying myself in a snowbank or sliding off into a cornfield then get taken out by someone driving 65 on their phone in a snowstorm.
 
Even if you don't have a big problem, as they say, that's your ride home. I don't know what insurance says about towing... they are supposed to cover within 60 miles or something, but does that include being miles up a dirt road? I'd think yes, but the fine print might say otherwise then you'd have one heck of a bill. Then you'd wish you'd not gone alone because another 4x4 could probably pull you out if it's just stuck.

Most insurance wont cover a towbill if they deem you were doing something stupid.

Broke down 50 miles from a town on a dirt road? Sure. Buried rocker panel deep in a river with no obvious damage from another vehicle, skid marks, etc? Probably not.

Ive gone out wheelin by myself quite a few times. You just gotta be smart about it. If you have to ask yourself "can i make it?" Turn around.
 
I usually take backroads when it's snowing because I can make better time on them than a main route after I get stuck behind someone going unreasonably slow lol.

Plus, the backroads are more exciting while slippery AND have better scenery.
 
I usually take backroads when it's snowing because I can make better time on them than a main route after I get stuck behind someone going unreasonably slow lol.

Plus, the backroads are more exciting while slippery AND have better scenery.

Generally speaking, at 5 in the morning, there isn’t a lot of traffic on the secondary roads I can take to work. Most people are stuck on the idea that the highway is always faster.
 
Generally speaking, at 5 in the morning, there isn’t a lot of traffic on the secondary roads I can take to work. Most people are stuck on the idea that the highway is always faster.

I generally don't work if it's snowing hard enough to accumulate, so I get lucky in that regard lol.

It might even be against OSHA to climb ladders if it's snowing? I'm not sure. Even if it isnt... eh... that's just something I don't get paid enough to do 😋

If it's coming down that hard.. I'm staying home & in bed, watching burnouts on TV with a big toasty hot chocolate in my face.

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I'm not going to waste a day of vacation time just in the premise of "I don't feel like going to work on a non-sunny day."

If I can get to work safely, I'm going. And my skills and vehicles are such that I can get there in some pretty nasty weather.
 
There aren't many people that work in my building, most are older office type people (sales admins, engineers, project managers, ect). A lot of times if it snows they will open late or close early. There are only a couple of people in the building that get paid by the hour, myself included, they never asked me to take a day of PTO if they close for snow, and I'm not going to offer. :)
 
I get called in to work whenever it starts snowing (if I’m not already there), and I’m there until the roads are clear. I never really have to drive on the roads in snow. Last year I drove around the parking lot in a Mack tri-axle roll-off plowing and salting… does that count?
The truck looked kinda like this:
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I don't need to use vacation days, our company is *somewhat* reasonable and just tallys it up as an excused absence.


I have no problem driving in snow, I probably like driving in snow more than anything else.. I'm just not gonna work in the crap if it's harder than a flurry and starts really accumulating. The nightmare headache and added danger just isn't worth the same pay.
 
I haul milk off a dairy farm.

Level 3 snow emergencies? Im going
Ice storm? Get your ass in that truck
Nuclear war? Damn milks not gonna move itself.

Without you, I couldn't have my snow-day coacoas..

Thanks milkman ❤
 
Generally speaking, at 5 in the morning, there isn’t a lot of traffic on the secondary roads I can take to work. Most people are stuck on the idea that the highway is always faster.

Kinda sorta.

Secondary (paved) just get plowed. No rocker panel remover. So they get sketchy faster and stay that way longer.

It can take days for the county to touch a gravel road. Beginning of a snow/ice storm they are better than any highway. They can drift bad and you may be walking for miles to get help if something goes sideways though.

Your results may vary.

I get on the stare highway asap and take it easy and it has worked OK so far.
 
Kinda sorta.

Secondary (paved) just get plowed. No rocker panel remover. So they get sketchy faster and stay that way longer.

It can take days for the county to touch a gravel road. Beginning of a snow/ice storm they are better than any highway. They can drift bad and you may be walking for miles to get help if something goes sideways though.

Your results may vary.

I get on the stare highway asap and take it easy and it has worked OK so far.

They like salt on everything here. Gotta see that bare pavement! ASAP or the road department isn't doing it's job and the world is going to end! Not to mention how else are they going to make those "all season" tires work?
 

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