Welding on some brackets

[Vexy]

why do people ask for advice then disagree and almost argue w/ the advice given?

your truck, if you wanna try it.. go for it. i'm just glad you won't be driving next to me. be safe.. do it right, do it once.

i'm not saying you are "arguing".. but that seems to be the general thing around here. people ask then get answers they don't like and argue about it and do what they want anyways... so why waste time for everyone? lol.

Just trying to get some other opinions. I understand.

 

[kryptonitecb]

Glad you went with ruffstuff Vexy. Its worth your time to get someone with a good welder to put those perches on for you. You can use your welder to tack the perches in place.

Sent from the road while ignoring traffic

 

[brinker88]

I would definitely find a better welder than that. Any shop w/ a welder should do it for you relatively cheap. I would use t170 .030 wire. Its a little thinner, but you can get better penetration and use mult. passes. I would also wrap the welds around to the inside corners for more strength.

 

[brinker88]

I would definitely find a better welder than that. Any shop w/ a welder should do it for you relatively cheap. I would use t170 .030 wire. Its a little thinner, but you can get better penetration and use mult. passes. I would also wrap the welds around to the inside corners for more strength. Here's a pic of the welds on my axle:

As you can see, they're boxed in for strength. I purchased spring seats from BallisticFabrication and they're def. worth the money. They're 2 inches longer than stock which cuts down on the axle wrap.

 

[bmxnick7]

My buddy has the same welder. It was used to weld multiple spring perches an axles. Which are in his jeep thought the stages. First was a d 44. Then a d70 and now a d 60 ip front. Never broke or even cracked a weld. It also have a chevy 350. On 38in tires. It was also used to weld his front bumper. Which at one point we we're doing a climb to steep with not enough gas and it sucked the pump dry. And it would not start. Bad part was the 1.5 foot rock in front of us. And behind is was a long way down. But it took 2 other vehicles with 10k winches to get us up the rock. And the bumper is still on the truck and works just fine. But to each there own. I would have no problem running it if it's done right. And o would make the second pass while it's still hot

 

[nine-teen91stxranger]

preheat, turn the welder up, weld slow, make sure its a clean weld and itll be good.

 

[kcm1582]

I'm not sure preheating will make up that amperage differance.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

As I was hacking the mounts off my Explorer axle last weekend I was marveling how rather light duty the welds looked on the outside. They did have good penetration though. As I was grinding them down it was like the stubs from the perch grew out of the axletube. Never heard of a factory (or even aftermarket) perch coming off.

Ford sure wasn't too worried about wrapping welds around the end of the perches, V'ing it out or running multiple passes... they just threw a big enough welder at it the first time.

I am going to have a guy I work with stick them on with the shop's 220v Miller.

Longer perches don't do a thing for axle wrap if you are still running the factory lift blocks unless you have wet noodles for springs that flex enough to let the perches touch them. Ruffstuff is longer than stock too, 7-3/4" total, I just ordered a set myself over the weekend.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/88PERCH.html

The clamping force of the bolts would help strengthen the bond, to what extent I am not sure.