Want to clear up space in engine bay

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Cool. Thanks for the pic, that shows the placement clearly.

 

[G8orFord]

Mopar = Fiat

 

[bobbywalter]

Mopar = manly man.


340. Best thing to happen to the universe.

 

[bobbywalter]

Fiat is Fiat.....

 

[G8orFord]

Maybe once upon a time, but now Mopar = Fiat. Keep watching.

Chrysler made some good engines in the past, but the overall package has always been subpar. Fanboys can whine about it all they want. Facts are facts. Look up the numbers.

I'll give then credit though. If you can afford there top end offerings, the current crop of Chargers and Challengers have the competition beat hands down as far as power goes.

We'll see how this latest generation of trucks turn out, but if history is any indication, the Cummins engine is all that will be left of most in 10 years. If it's a half ton, then nothing will be left.

#Flamesuiton

LOL

 

[Dirtman]

My butt itches...

 

[PetroleumJunkie412]

Maybe once upon a time, but now Mopar = Fiat. Keep watching.

Chrysler made some good engines in the past, but the overall package has always been subpar. Fanboys can whine about it all they want. Facts are facts. Look up the numbers.

I'll give then credit though. If you can afford there top end offerings, the current crop of Chargers and Challengers have the competition beat hands down as far as power goes.

We'll see how this latest generation of trucks turn out, but if history is any indication, the Cummins engine is all that will be left of most in 10 years. If it's a half ton, then nothing will be left.

#Flamesuiton

LOL

Dodge Demon was banned from all NHRA competition when it was released.

Oh look, here's the letter officially banning the demon from competition:

Apparently the NHRA thought a factory sub-10 second car was just far too unfair.

Yes, I understand that the big three have their specializations. Ford builds one hell of a vehicle, full stop. They're also the only American manufacturer to win LeMans. Mopar is still king of the drag strip, and is giving everyone a run for their money in the diesel arena. GM has the market cornered on rust, rot, and fires.

But um...how many times has Ford or GM been banned from NHRA competition?

So yes, please continue to tell me how Mopar's Glory Days are behind them.

Love ya buddy, but you're dead wrong on this one. ?

 

[Curious Hound]

My butt itches...

Start heading towards the furnace.

 

[Dirtman]

They banned it for not meeting the safety requirements for its ET class. How is that unfair? If you take any car that fast to a track your required to meet the same safety standards.

Dodge built a drag car and didn't put any safety gear on it so they could brag about being banned. Not really an achievement...

I've been banned from alot of places.

 

[bobbywalter]

Maybe once upon a time, but now Mopar = Fiat. Keep watching.

Chrysler made some good engines in the past, but the overall package has always been subpar. Fanboys can whine about it all they want. Facts are facts. Look up the numbers.

I'll give then credit though. If you can afford there top end offerings, the current crop of Chargers and Challengers have the competition beat hands down as far as power goes.

We'll see how this latest generation of trucks turn out, but if history is any indication, the Cummins engine is all that will be left of most in 10 years. If it's a half ton, then nothing will be left.

#Flamesuiton

LOL

Listen up crackerjack.











If you are looking for a argument.......


















You better go somewhere else.






Because everything you just stated, is Truth.









Mopar ended in 1972.

 

[Snoranger]

I've been banned from alot of places.

Me too. It's really not that big of an achievement.

 

[1990RangerinSK]

I've been banned from alot of places.

Does that include every furnace in the world?

 

[J_giles51]

do

You can get a great start on it by removing the 3.0 ?

Seriously though. Rerouting a few things can do wonders. The other thing is decide what you can live without. I got rid of my a/c to free up space. I installed electric over hydraulic power steering in order to delete the belt drive power steering pump. I relocated the charcoal canister, changed alternator styles, went with a different upper intake, tossed the factory air box, deleted the mechanical fan for an electric one, and relocated a bunch of other crap to free up room. All of that allowed me to fit headers and a supercharger.

A good start would be ditching your factory air box for an aftermarket one, but remember, there will be trade offs with all of this.

do you have a picture?

 

[Eddo Rogue]

I don't intend to sound condescending here so please don't take it that way but it sounds to me like things are best left alone.

Half the vehicles that roll through my shop have been fixed to death... somebody gets the urge to tweak out on a cold air intake and blue wire loom and rearranging/deleting things and pretty soon the dash is lit up like a Christmas tree and it doesn't run right. I have never understood the desire to change things like that.

If I'm out looking at old cars to buy, I'd be far more interested in something that has a nice, clean, untouched engine bay and dash. Once things are moved and changed and wires are clipped off it's just sure to be a disaster and my experience has proven that 100% of the time.

Best to just leave it alone.

I agree w/ this. Its harder to undo things sometimes, and fix stuff that's been modified, especially if someone else did the modifying.

If anything maybe just implement some wire looms, wraps, zip ties etc to consolidate and cleanup a lil bit. You can probably make some of the wires and vacuum lines a little neater.

Maybe just poke around and see what you move or shift or reroute or mount in a better way, but without having to dismantle stuff.

Cleanliness helps too. After cleaning or replacing just about everything above the intake/cam synchro, the engine and bay looked/seemed much less cluttered simply because everything was shiny and new.

If you didn't already, switching to an electric fan really opens up space (and some power). Since Electric fans are common anyways, I don't think it would be a big deal modification wise, and can be done so its easy to switch back if need be (I did).

 

[Eddo Rogue]

The difference here isn't that the S10 has fewer parts, it was built with a different design philosophy.

See Chevy knew and acknowledged from day one that their stuff is junk and will need to be worked on, so they left room to do it.

Ford believes that their designs are perfect and will never need service of any kind, and that anyone who dares question that by attempting to work on it should suffer, so they don't leave any room.

What about Jeeps?