Uh Oh.....MPG controversy....

[HenryMac]

I'm willing to give it a go. I won't have any trips that long range in the immediate future but I will have some around 2 hours of driving time that I can experiment with. Possibly a drive or two across the state. However, with PA fuel prices, I won't be making premium fuel a habit.

Great.. looking forward to what you find out.

 

[Dirtman]

My duratec which is a crude non turbo 2.3 EcoBoost gets 26+mpg on the highway. I understand the new ranger weighs ALOT more. But... seems they have surpassed the limits of what an engine is capable of (under current technology) in the power vs fuel efficiency factor.

Ive had 1,000 pounds in my bed and still got low 20's on the highway which compares with the new ranger unloaded.

I do admit my city mpgs suck though. But when i say city i mean an hour or more idle time per 20 miles.

 

[HenryMac]

My duratec which is a crude non turbo 2.3 EcoBoost gets 26+mpg on the highway. I understand the new ranger weighs ALOT more. But... seems they have surpassed the limits of what an engine is capable of (under current technology) in the power vs fuel efficiency factor.

Ive had 1,000 pounds in my bed and still got low 20's on the highway which compares with the new ranger unloaded.

I do admit my city mpgs suck though. But when i say city i mean an hour or more idle time per 20 miles.

So you're comparing your 143 HP motor's mpg in a 2wd Ranger with the 2019 Rangers 270 HP motor's mpg in a 4wd?

88% increase in HP, same displacement and I'm getting the same mileage as yours. That seems like progress to me.

 

[Dirtman]

Think your confusing a lima with a duratec. And thats not what I was saying. The power increased but mileage went down. The tech is at a point where the balance of power vs fuel economy is at an apex. They pumped an extra 80hp out of the duratec through direct injection and turbocharging but fuel economy is down. I love the EcoBoost engines. I just think they traded fuel economy for power and that balance is something that no car manafacturer has overcome yet. We are just at a standstill of technology.

Like cell phones.... seriously, is a galaxy s5 really better than an s10? Or the iphone equivalent? Tech is stuck and even though my truck is 2wd, like i said i can load it with the weigh to match a new ranger and get the same mpg. Wont be near as powerful or fast, but itll match mileage.

 

[HenryMac]

Think your confusing a lima with a duratec. And thats not what I was saying. The power increased but mileage went down. The tech is at a point where the balance of power vs fuel economy is at an apex. They pumped an extra 80hp out of the duratec through direct injection and turbocharging but fuel economy is down. I love the EcoBoost engines. I just think they traded fuel economy for power and that balance is something that no car manafacturer has overcome yet. We are just at a standstill of technology.

Increased the HP by an incredible amount and yet the gas mileage is almost identical. How is that a standstill of technology?

 

[Dirtman]

So you're comparing your 143 HP motor's mpg in a 2wd Ranger with the 2019 Rangers 270 HP motor's mpg in a 4wd?

88% increase in HP, same displacement and I'm getting the same mileage as yours. That seems like progress to me.

Nevermind your right.

 

[acsnowrider]

Finally got out of the city, and performed a mpg eval--Filled up in Tucson, Sam's Club reg 87 ($1.99/gal)--reset trip log on site, and hit the freeway to Phoenix. 60 miles down the road--read-out passed 31mpg. Topped out at just under 32 mpg, at 68-70 mph

 

[sgtsandman]

I've found mine reads high. The mpg I get when calculating miles driven divided by the gallons needed to fill the tank is almost always lower than what the truck is telling me.

 

[acsnowrider]

The old "manual" method, was all we use to have!! Works great, and mine is within 1mpg of the readout. I routinely pass 400 miles on a tank, and that's really all city driving. Notice the outside temp reading!! Went up to over 110, as we came into the city. This mpg was with A/C on.

 

[sgtsandman]

Well, ran the 2019 to the other side of the state. There was about 6 gallons of 87 left in the tank. Filled the tank with 12 gallons of 93 to net a rough octane of 91, if I figured it correctly. Netted an MPG of 25.9.

I’ll have to refuel it now that I’m back to figure what it’s MPG was.

Further experimentation is needed but a net gain of 2-3 MPG doesn’t seem worth the price difference unless hauling something that needs it.

The return trip was done with 91 octane.

 

[sgtsandman]

Got the refuel and mileage for the return trip. 24.5 mpg. Not a significant difference from 87 octane.

 

[lvwill]

Just got back from a weekend trip of basically sight seeing. I've been running 91 octane the entire trip. The trip 1 shows the entire trip including steep mountain roads and some off-road excursions and a lot of idling, keeping us and the dog cool and finding a place to park. Trip 2 is mostly highway in the way home.
I actually think it did pretty good.

 

[lvwill]

Second display

 

[Fredness]

On the Mustang Forums someone put it very well.
"The EcoBoost Platforms does 2 things VERY WELL:
Eco or
Boost"

I was getting 13 second passes stock in street trim, with street tires at street pressure and the 4 hour round trip to the track with 8 passes netted 29.9MPG in 108* Texas temps.
#InstallDriverMod

 

[sgtsandman]

Made it back from Ohio in one piece. Even got to play in a light coating of snow. The 2019 was definitely in boost mode for the trip home (14.9 mpg). As a test, I ran the truck with 91 octane for the trip. It never felt like it was struggling but I don't have a highway run on 87 octane to compare it with yet. Tow haul mode performed as it should. The sensors in the truck did not like the ice build up. Stopping and starting at the end of the trip would cause the sensor system to freak out for some reason. Regular driving wasn't a problem though and the truck knew the trailer was behind it the whole time. So it had to be the ice build up causing the issue.

Also, since this post is somewhat out of context. The trailer is full of firewood all the way up to the repurposed toneau cover bows (4'X8'X2').