tire swing gate

[wildbill23c]

They all came stock with a spare tire.

Here, now you cant say you've never seen one with an interior tire carrier:

The only problem with the tire on the roof is all that extra weight up high raises the center of gravity. You would be better off building a good bumper mount/ swing away.

They come from the factory with a spare tire, duh, but what the owner(s) do with them in the mean time is unknown, and for the most part people don't carry a spare tire where I live, heaven forbid they actually had to work on their vehicle if it broke down, nope instead they call a wrecker.

With the uses of my B2 having a spare tire on the roof isn't going to change its operational characteristics, when driven properly having a spare tire on the roof isn't going to make a difference. Its when people try to drive a narrow, short wheel based vehicle like a sports car that they end up flipping them over.

I can already see the damage starting from that rear tire carrier just having the spare tire mounted on it the past few months. Its definitely time for a change of tire location, and the new tires I will be getting are going to be lighter too, so that will help.

Can't decide really though if I want to mount the tire on the roof, or if I want to buy the equipment and materials to build a bumper with a built in tire rack. I kind of like the roof idea because its up top completely out of the way for rear hatch access, you don't have to worry about it when towing either, as some trailer tongues are slightly short and in a sharp turn you may be wishing that tire wasn't back there. Just makes more sense to me having it on the roof out of the way, because in reality how often are you going to need that tire?

 

[PetesPonies]

What I was referring to Bill . . was this fluey . . .

Not all B2's w/out a rack have an inside mount, mine came stock w/out a tire carrier whatsoever...

 

[B2 Addict]

What I was referring to Bill . . was this fluey . . .

I'm not gonna argue the fact that my B2 does not have any mount whatsoever inside, nor does it have any evidence that there were ever any brackets that may have been removed... Petty?? I think so too...


B2

 

[wildbill23c]

That tire mounting location is exactly the same as the jeep cherokee/grand cherokee. The B2's I've seen have either had the spare tire on the carrier on the back, or just the tire thrown in the back. Makes me want to go to the pick-a-part and see if I can find that inside carrier bracket assembly, would make a lot more sense than the cheesy tire on that crappy rear carrier idea. It would take up some cargo space though, which is why my idea of the roof rack was making more sense.

 

[bobbywalter]

no tire gate has a space saver mount inside on the ones i have owned.

if it did not have an outside mount as delivered from the oem.


IT HAD AN INSIDE MOUNT with a space saver.


it is a simple deal that holds the jack/and handle with the tire. i have owned them...quite simple setup.

the reason i say this is there was no spare delete option that i have seen on anything since the 70's on domestic till runflats came out.



could it be possible one of the ponies escaped the corral without any sort of spare tire setup......



mmmmm.....errrrrr.......uhhhhhhh




























yup. i do think it is possible.

 

[bobbywalter]

That tire mounting location is exactly the same as the jeep cherokee/grand cherokee. The B2's I've seen have either had the spare tire on the carrier on the back, or just the tire thrown in the back. Makes me want to go to the pick-a-part and see if I can find that inside carrier bracket assembly, would make a lot more sense than the cheesy tire on that crappy rear carrier idea. It would take up some cargo space though, which is why my idea of the roof rack was making more sense.

a regular tire dont fit well in there.....235 anyway.



a good bumper and swing is ideal imo....but thats an opinion....

 

[wildbill23c]

a regular tire dont fit well in there.....235 anyway.



a good bumper and swing is ideal imo....but thats an opinion....

Exactly, the tires that were sent out in that location were temporary spares, not exactly a great idea on a 4WD vehicle.

Anyhow, the bumper with a swing mount is ok, but I've got to the point where I hate that stupid mount on the back, you have to move it everytime you need to get in the back cargo area. If it was mounted on the roof it would be out of the way. How often do you access the back of an SUV? How often do you use the spare tire? Makes more sense for that tire to be completely out of the way to me. I've seen the offroad bumpers with the spare tire rack and fuel can rack on them and they look nice, but then you have that stuff in the way all the time.

It really is a toss-up though between putting a rack on the roof, and putting the tire up there, or building a rear bumper. At the rate my B2 is going right now probably neither, it may end up in the recycle bin before anything else. I bought it with hopes of having time to work on it, but that's not happening, and when I will have time to work on it, its too damn cold outside.

The rear stock bumper is kind of pointless with that spare tire on the back, an aftermarket (home built) rear bumper would make tons more sense, if there was a way to get the spare tire out of the way so the bumper could do its job rather than cars hitting the tire and shoving the tire/mount through the rear hatch.

Anyone have pics of one of those custom bumpers? How about mounting the spare tire on the front like some of the older trucks had

 

[Lil-Pony]

Anyone have pics of one of those custom bumpers? How about mounting the spare tire on the front like some of the older trucks had

http://www.jamesduff.com/broncoII/bumpers_carriers.html

 

[bobbywalter]

roof mount


front mount



side mount



swing away.


all good, all work. the individual pro and con are just that....individual.


a stout and proper bumper swinger built with a spindle aint shit to deal with with sane size tires....but is a pia to some extent yet as easy or easier in most cases to use then the oem unit..

i had a temporary one on my truck for a bit and with a 37 on there it sux. but i have a shitty pipe hinge too.


on big trips when i haul all the bikes and shit the spare ends up on the front often or my roof. sometimes i have two on the roof and one out front and the others wherever they will fit as i switch tires when i get to where i am going. just depends on what i am doing.


a guy that drives 55 mph max most of the time wont have too many issue up top i imagine. 70 mph for a 100-200 mile per day commute would pose a problem on the other hand.



what are your needs?



a killer well thought out bumper offers many advantages for sure...extra stowage or being an air tank or both for example....not too mention superior protection.


its up to you....the owner what you do and need.

 

[wildbill23c]

http://www.jamesduff.com/broncoII/bumpers_carriers.html

That would be useful, and far better than the cheesy factory rear carrier setup. Thanks for the link. Good prices too considering all the fabrication that goes into building one.

I still kind of would like to get a roof rack/basket to store my tools in though. Got to thinking that in the winter if I needed the spare it would probably be completely covered in ice/snow and probably would have to chisel it off the basket LOL.

 

[wildbill23c]

roof mount


front mount



side mount



swing away.


all good, all work. the individual pro and con are just that....individual.


a stout and proper bumper swinger built with a spindle aint shit to deal with with sane size tires....but is a pia to some extent yet as easy or easier in most cases to use then the oem unit..

i had a temporary one on my truck for a bit and with a 37 on there it sux. but i have a shitty pipe hinge too.


on big trips when i haul all the bikes and shit the spare ends up on the front often or my roof. sometimes i have two on the roof and one out front and the others wherever they will fit as i switch tires when i get to where i am going. just depends on what i am doing.


a guy that drives 55 mph max most of the time wont have too many issue up top i imagine. 70 mph for a 100-200 mile per day commute would pose a problem on the other hand.



what are your needs?



a killer well thought out bumper offers many advantages for sure...extra stowage or being an air tank or both for example....not too mention superior protection.


its up to you....the owner what you do and need.

My whole need thing was to get the stupid flimsy factory tire mount off the vehicle before it takes the back quarter panel and the rear hatch with it. I never knew the rear hatches were fiberglass until I got this B2, that was kind of a stupid idea as well.

Thanks everyone like always awesome information to use.

 

[Surrey]

That would be useful, and far better than the cheesy factory rear carrier setup. Thanks for the link. Good prices too considering all the fabrication that goes into building one.

I still kind of would like to get a roof rack/basket to store my tools in though. Got to thinking that in the winter if I needed the spare it would probably be completely covered in ice/snow and probably would have to chisel it off the basket LOL.

The big problem with putting anything up on your roof is your center of gravity shifting.

Most people view this as dangerous on the road, but due to the fact my truck is for off-roading, I am more concerned with flipping it offroad and rolling down an embankment or something.

 

[wildbill23c]

The big problem with putting anything up on your roof is your center of gravity shifting.

Most people view this as dangerous on the road, but due to the fact my truck is for off-roading, I am more concerned with flipping it offroad and rolling down an embankment or something.

People who view putting a spare tire on top of their SUV causing a major impact on their center of gravity, should probably not be driving an SUV to begin with. An SUV wasn't built to take corners like a sports car. I've seen so many wrecks with SUV's caused by driver error, driving too fast for conditions.

 

[Snoranger]

People who view putting a spare tire on top of their SUV causing a major impact on their center of gravity, should probably not be driving an SUV to begin with. An SUV wasn't built to take corners like a sports car. I've seen so many wrecks with SUV's caused by driver error, driving too fast for conditions.

People who dont view an extra 80-100 lbs added to the highest point of an already top heavy vehicle as a major shift in COG defiantly shouldnt be driving an SUV (on-road or off).

 

[wildbill23c]

People who dont view an extra 80-100 lbs added to the highest point of an already top heavy vehicle as a major shift in COG defiantly shouldnt be driving an SUV (on-road or off).

I don't view it as a problem because I know how to drive.