Diesel_brad
Well-Known Member
Hey guys I got a head scratcher here. 04 4.0 5 speed 155k miles
Over last winter I noticed clouds of smoke at start up. No CEL.
The air filter and tube was SOAKED with oil. I changed PCV, changed air filter and cleaned out tube.
No more smoke at start up.
Then this summer I was getting some smoke at startup and sometimes it would smoke a 1/2 mile down the road. It was not consistent at all but I was using enough oil it would foul the plugs and cause a misfire.
So I got a "factory reman" @ 169k (as I was told from the local ford dealer who sells alot of whole parts), it got a new intake(recommended by the engine builder), every sensor on the engine, PCV, thermostat housing, JBA headers,etc, etc, etc
First oil change was at 500 miles, no problems.
Then over the the next 3000 miles it used 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles.
I went to shop that installed and they got ahold of warranty company. @ 173k
1. had them pull plugs to verify burning oil(plugs were burning with oil deposits)
2. had them pull PVC valve and hose(both were dry)
3 had them pull pan and look for debris(small pieces of hard plastic and rubber)
4 had them pull the engine for factory inspection
5. the factory said they were warranting the engine(Never said what they found) but they had none in stock and had to rebuild mine
(Intake had oil in it when removed)
6. Got the engine back from texas in about a week(what a turn around to rebuild it and ship it to PA)
7. "new" engine in with new valve covers and PCV
8. 500 miles it got oil/filter change
9. 1200 miles into second oil change I am seeing smoke at start up AGAIN!!!! and down 1quart of oil
WTF kind of POS is this engine!?!?!?!!?!?
I had to pay OUT OF POCKET $750 to have the warrantied engine changed out because the warranty company only pays $50 per hour(shop charges $75) and only 14 hours to diagnose and change engine. When it actually took 24 hours. The ford dealer that the engine came from covered the $25 an hour difference in the hourly rate and I was left paying the 10 hour difference
Over last winter I noticed clouds of smoke at start up. No CEL.
The air filter and tube was SOAKED with oil. I changed PCV, changed air filter and cleaned out tube.
No more smoke at start up.
Then this summer I was getting some smoke at startup and sometimes it would smoke a 1/2 mile down the road. It was not consistent at all but I was using enough oil it would foul the plugs and cause a misfire.
So I got a "factory reman" @ 169k (as I was told from the local ford dealer who sells alot of whole parts), it got a new intake(recommended by the engine builder), every sensor on the engine, PCV, thermostat housing, JBA headers,etc, etc, etc
First oil change was at 500 miles, no problems.
Then over the the next 3000 miles it used 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles.
I went to shop that installed and they got ahold of warranty company. @ 173k
1. had them pull plugs to verify burning oil(plugs were burning with oil deposits)
2. had them pull PVC valve and hose(both were dry)
3 had them pull pan and look for debris(small pieces of hard plastic and rubber)
4 had them pull the engine for factory inspection
5. the factory said they were warranting the engine(Never said what they found) but they had none in stock and had to rebuild mine
(Intake had oil in it when removed)
6. Got the engine back from texas in about a week(what a turn around to rebuild it and ship it to PA)
7. "new" engine in with new valve covers and PCV
8. 500 miles it got oil/filter change
9. 1200 miles into second oil change I am seeing smoke at start up AGAIN!!!! and down 1quart of oil
WTF kind of POS is this engine!?!?!?!!?!?
I had to pay OUT OF POCKET $750 to have the warrantied engine changed out because the warranty company only pays $50 per hour(shop charges $75) and only 14 hours to diagnose and change engine. When it actually took 24 hours. The ford dealer that the engine came from covered the $25 an hour difference in the hourly rate and I was left paying the 10 hour difference
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