search button....

[shane96ranger]

Damn.... Some of you guys are just mean spirited. I have noticed that many of the people that don't search first are teenagers that just got their first Ranger. Why be mean to them? Give them a bit of advice, post a couple of thread links, and suggest the search. I have seen many a member being UNNECESSARILY RUDE about the search function. Part of that could be due to the misleading nature of that Google custom search tag. Maybe if it said: "Search this site with Google custom search." part of the problem would diminish. You also forget the youthful exuberance of getting your first vehicle and wanting to know all about it.

I guess in short what I am saying is you will get more respect by being a mentor than a menace and some of the "You should learn to use the search." guys responses can be quite intimidating.

Not to sound like a douche bag, but you've got 20 posts under your belt. I really don't think you can understand the atmosphere change around here lately. Have we been a little harsh? Maybe. What we are trying to do is keep the forum as the best damn forum on the internet. Between spammers and the one post wonders, our tolerance has probably gotten less lately. And maybe the delivery of our message isn't so frosty, but it still needs to be put out there.

That said though, I feel the search button really should be blinking, a different color, larger, all of the above.... something. It blends in too well where it is.

 

[scooter]

Damn.... Some of you guys are just mean spirited. I have noticed that many of the people that don't search first are teenagers that just got their first Ranger. Why be mean to them? Give them a bit of advice, post a couple of thread links, and suggest the search. I have seen many a member being UNNECESSARILY RUDE about the search function. Part of that could be due to the misleading nature of that Google custom search tag. Maybe if it said: "Search this site with Google custom search." part of the problem would diminish. You also forget the youthful exuberance of getting your first vehicle and wanting to know all about it.

I guess in short what I am saying is you will get more respect by being a mentor than a menace and some of the "You should learn to use the search." guys responses can be quite intimidating.

If my dad had treated me like you want me to treat teenagers,,,,, i would be worthless and lazy just like these "kids".

You want something, GO LOOK FOR IT YOURSELF!!!
Im not the kinda guy to breastfeed a bunch of people to lazy to help thenselves.
I love helping people, i really do, but only if they are making a real effert to help themselves.
No one on here has ever asked me a direct question that i havent tried 100% to give my honest answer.

 

[shane96ranger]

I will start posting this:

 

[Explorin94]

Not to sound like a douche bag, but you've got 20 posts under your belt. I really don't think you can understand the atmosphere change around here lately. Have we been a little harsh? Maybe. What we are trying to do is keep the forum as the best damn forum on the internet. Between spammers and the one post wonders, our tolerance has probably gotten less lately. And maybe the delivery of our message isn't so frosty, but it still needs to be put out there.

That said though, I feel the search button really should be blinking, a different color, larger, all of the above.... something. It blends in too well where it is.

20 posts in a year and 4 months

 

[armadillon]

That said though, I feel the search button really should be blinking, a different color, larger, all of the above.... something. It blends in too well where it is.

I completely agree. Make it more biggerer. NOW.

I think people are getting whiny about the tenured members getting rude. I don't think we're being rude until a few posts in when the new guy makes a fool of himself or gives us pushback.

Also, I did have to chuckle at Shanes response. Yeah. We've covered this topic (of tenured members going for the FNG's throat) in other threads too. So it makes me giggle.

Sometimes it should be Pirate-esque.
ARRRRR...ye aware of yon search box matey?!

 

[adsm08]

Sometimes it should be Pirate-esque.
ARRRRR...ye aware of yon search box matey?!

You should totally do that for the next few.

 

[armadillon]

Haha, now I definitely will!

 

[PanamaExpat]

I knew that my post would draw the ire of a few. But as explorin94 pointed out I have been here for a year and four months. So what if I only made 20 posts in the time. Why so few... well because I have been a member of many automotive forums over the years and am well aware that on mature forums most answers are available by using the search. Another reason I don't post much is I am not the most sociable of folks. But I am also not mean to others for no reason. Now if they are being impertinent by all means slam them in the corner. But at least try to show some tolerance to begin with.

So that being said. I have been a member of the Ssangyong owners group since 2005. I don't have 75 posts there yet. I have helped a lot of folks there and received a TON of useful advice in return. They are a British group and no matter how many times a question has been asked or how new you are they are always courteous and do not hesitate to explain it all again or at least say hello and post a few useful threads that will get the person on their way. Now how many of you even know what a Ssangyong is? Well I own a Musso 2.9TD and it is one of the best 4X4s I have ever owned as long as you can find parts. Little low on ground clearance but I have never gotten her stuck no matter how bad the mud or the jungle was.

 

[robertc1024]

I don't know. I just assume that old-timers are drunk when they semi-flame the relentless number of questions asked about by newbies the same subject. I was on here a few months before I posted anything and it didn't take long to find the search function.

 

[scooter]

I don't know. I just assume that old-timers are drunk when they semi-flame the relentless number of questions asked about by newbies the same subject. I was on here a few months before I posted anything and it didn't take long to find the search function.

Meh, i only drink on the weekends, and not every weekend.
Im a prick sober or drunk.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

I spent a lot of time learning on here. I also learned to use the search (back when it didn't work as well as it does today) and learned to hunt through forums for my particular question before throwing it out there. Sometimes I found something similar but it didn't answer the question so I had to post up anyway, usually I would start my own thread instead of bringing something back from the dead that wasn't exactly what I needed to know anyway. You could argue either way on what is right to do there.

But as I progressed in my knowledge from avid learner to being able to share my knowledge, I found that the forum here slowly changed. I'm sure a lot of members that have been on here will note it as well. I'm not fully sure how to describe it, but it's be a sort of change in tone to the site, lots of new people asking the same dry questions.

It doesn't help that many of us are trapped in jobs we do not enjoy, often working longer hours and being frustrated at work by a general lack of common sense. Then we come home, try to kick back and relax, we jump on our favorite forum and find that some noob just posted the same question that we've answered an average of once a week for the past two years (my favorite would be "I want to lift my RBV cheap...."). For awhile I had an answer that I would just copy and paste but I've gotten tired of even that. It's been asked easily over a million times, it's been addressed in the tech archives, stickies in the suspension forum, in many build threads, and numerous threads in both suspension and general discussion. And it doesn't belong in the general discussion forum.

You wanted to solve a problem so you searched and found the forum. Great. You figured out how to post your problem. Great. Your failure to do even minor research on the problem? Fail.

I know I've gotten grumpy about answering some questions. My time is valuable. I have a crappy job that sucks the life out of me. I'm way over-extended in things I need to do. I try to keep my cool, but when I see something like the infamous suspension lift thread in general discussion anymore and find that a half a dozen people responded (and several times nobody mentions what year the truck is which does make a difference for Rangers and Explorers) so there is tons of advice but scattered about (nothing like telling someone to crank the torsion bars on their 1996 Ranger), I get grumpy. And short. And have a tendency to blast everyone in the thread for assuming. And for not taking a minute to look around before hitting the button for "new post." I'm more than happy to share the information I have. But is it really too much to ask to not be stupid about asking for it? Have we really been dumbed down that much as a society?

 

[shane96ranger]

You wanted to solve a problem so you searched and found the forum. Great. You figured out how to post your problem. Great. Your failure to do even minor research on the problem? Fail.

And this..... this is exactly where the problem is. They have the capability to find TRS, but somehow become incompetent afterwards. It is the exact problem with society. Find someone willing to lend a hand, and then let them do all of the work (aka take advantage of them).


I mean for piss sakes..... "where can I buy a ___________?". Just a __________. Not one with a Ford logo, not one with diamonds and a picture of Justin Bieber..... just a plain old __________. That is pure laziness. It took more time to post the question than it did to google it.