school me on air rifles

[Snoranger]

oh yeah, says who?

The guy who posted 3 times in a row.

 

[Chapap]

Every barrel likes a different pellet too for whatever reason, there's people obsessed with finding the right one... Gamo pellets are kinda all over the board for consistency between types, myself I try to stick to what's consistently easy to find so I chose Crosman Premier Hollow Points in .22 and Crosman pointed in .177. Back in the day it was like $5 a tin of the CPHP in .22 and walmart had deals on milk cartons of 1250 of the pointeds for like $10...

Sample packs are common. I only tried H&N and mine likes the Baracuda Hunter

 

[Eddo Rogue]

Funny this thread popped up right when the TV had airgun stuff on the outdoor channel.

Umarex makes some crazy stuff, like a .50 cal air rifle what!?

 

[scotts90ranger]

Yeah, you can go cheap or deep... I play on the cheap side but bought a compressor so kinda spendy there...

Only tuning the hammer striker screw and adjusting the transfer port were power mods, the rest is for lighter trigger pull and more consistent quieter operation, the sponge thing takes the ting noise out of the compression tube, Bstaley mod quiets the hammer and conserves some air and the lawyer spring just takes out half the trigger pull, I think it's just removing a spring and replacing it with a tiny O ring...

 

[BroncLander]

I have a few extra leaf springs, maybe I could cobble together something that launches harpoons.


for my situation a crossbow makes too much noise when it hits the backstop.

Have you seen the little pistol ones? They shoot little 6 inch aluminum bolts. And you can fix a different broadhead to them. There's little varmint stunners and such that won't punch holes in the walls

 

[mikkelstuff]

I recommend an RWS Diana 48 with a scope. Not cheap but powerful. I have a friend who rebuilds these as a hobby. PM me if interested.

 

[Eddo Rogue]

someone mentioned the aguila quiet .22, I have used them before and they are very quiet, and very weak...I thinks theyre 750 fps or something. I wouldn't use em on anything bigger than squirrel.

 

[pjtoledo]

someone mentioned the aguila quiet .22, I have used them before and they are very quiet, and very weak...I thinks theyre 750 fps or something. I wouldn't use em on anything bigger than squirrel.

I did.
they are indeed very quiet, and low on stopping power.
and inaccurate.
they don't cycle a semi auto, use them only in a bolt action.
the charge fouls the barrel.

 

[Eddo Rogue]

I did.
they are indeed very quiet, and low on stopping power.
and inaccurate.
they don't cycle a semi auto, use them only in a bolt action.
the charge fouls the barrel.

Oh yea I forgot to mention the inaccurate part lol. I used em in an old revolver and bolt action to try out. The bolt action had a scope. Dont try to use these rounds for sighting in.

 

[Eddo Rogue]

Have we debated spring loaded vs pump vs CO2 vs Scuba fill tanks?....I see pros and cons in em all....Im interested in the latest and greatest of high pressure fill tanks...whatever the technical term for em is

 

[Chapap]

Have we debated spring loaded vs pump vs CO2 vs Scuba fill tanks?....I see pros and cons in em all....Im interested in the latest and greatest of high pressure fill tanks...whatever the technical term for em is

If I was real serious about it, I'd go PCP (pre-charged pneumatic). Springers require a delicate hold of the rifle- pretty much opposite from all other technique teachings. The spring accelerates then abruptly stops before the pellet leaves the barrel. I balance mine on a beanbag so every shot is as identical as possible. I tried to zero it before I knew this. I rested the stock on a brick wall and shouldered it. I could barely stay on the paper at 20 yd.

 

[scotts90ranger]

That's a big debate and it all depends on your wants and conditions.

CO2 is great because it's a liquid and at normal room temperatures it's like 700psi if I remember right so until you run out of liquid it's going to be fairly consistent, downside is under about 50F the pressure drops pretty good, some people will go as far as getting motorcycle handlebar heaters to help...

Spring piston (be it gas strut or coil spring) are great because of the great power in the simple mechanism but the "magnum" springers are more hold sensitive and the cheaper ones have single stage triggers so you have to have a very consistent light hold while pulling a 12 pound trigger... that's where the higher end like the RWS come in and the CDT triggers for many of the others the less strong shooters are easier to shoot.

pump guns are kinda my favorite but I rarely shoot them anymore but I don't shoot much anymore, the nice thing is most are pretty simple (mainly Crosman, some like the Daisy but I find their mechanisms more delicate and odd, Benjamin and Sheridan are tried and true solid workhorses which no one will argue about). They're nice because if you're just plinking you can pump like 3 times but if you are hunting you can go bonkers (some people go crazy like 100 pumps in some builds, 10-15 is a good maximum for most) for some power. The downside is it's a lot of pumping and there's less options than there used to be...

PCP is where it's at really if you have they money for the options you want... most are adjustable in many ways and have shrouded barrels and regulators and magazines and whatnot, prices range from around $200 to like $4k... you can tune them for power and get very few shots per fill (I think the Dragon Claw is rated at like 9 shots a fill but is 50 cal...) or tame some down in .177 and get like 100 shots per fill like I'm pretty sure I could do on my Air Venturi Avenger that I have toned down to as slow as it will go with the stock adjustments...

The high pressure option is SCBA tanks or whatever the purpose built ones are called, they're rated at like 4500psi...

One of the reasons I like Crosman is parts availability and most of their guns are considered "lego guns" like the 1377 or 1322 pump pistols and the 2240 CO2 pistols (and it's various factory builds like the 2300T and whatnot), for example the builds in the next couple pictures... the one with the scope is a 2240 with a I think 24" .177 barrel, stock valve, steel breech and the Crosman offered butt stock (I have the part number to get it through parts at like half price...). The second pic is a Crosman 2289 (same as a 1322 but different pump handle and a quick release butt stock) with a longer barrel, then another 2240 with a longer than stock barrel... that 2240 with the long .177 barrel gets like 60 shots per CO2 cart and is quiet, I've taken many starlings with it...

 

[Chapap]

Another thing to consider. I’m fairly certain that spring guns require specific “spring-rated” optics. They will damage a “regular” scope, So you can’t repurpose the $1000 scope from your Sako.

 

[scotts90ranger]

Oh, yeah, forgot about that, magnum springers are harder on scopes than any magnum powder burner... the double recoil does a number on them...