run on starter

[Angie]

pete, what is a TFI? on your comment #4, could you not use the abreveations? thanks

 

[Big Jim M]

do you care to retract that comment???

Nope! Your problem just has to be switch connected. We aren't there to test it ourselves but there is where your problem lies.
If the signal isn't being sent to the solenoid the solenoid won't be sending the signal to the starter.
SO where does the solenoid get it's signal? The damn switch! Since it is a LIVE signal and not a ground signal there must be electricity passing to engage the solenoid. Where does this live signal come from? The damn switch!
I'm not looking under there but I think the key turns on electricity.. Then when twisting the key farther to the start position, a rod is moved to engage the lower switch. If this rod is installed in a "too long" position the switch will be engaged most if not all the time... thus sending the signal when it is unwanted directly to the soleniod.
I have seen similiar setups that just needed a small adjustment to reach the desired length of movement. Upon this small adjustment they went back to work again.
Big JIm

 

[Angie]

ok so where does the signal come from??? the single red wire that hooks onto the solinode... gues what... IT IS DEAD... no electrical current is going there. explain this one to me please....

 

[Big Jim M]

I thought I had just splained it above!

ok so where does the signal come from??? the single red wire that hooks onto the solinode... gues what... IT IS DEAD... no electrical current is going there. explain this one to me please....

That wire should go to the clutch-neutral/park switch. The wire from there should go to the start switch.
Big JIm

 

[Psychopete]

ok so where does the signal come from??? the single red wire that hooks onto the solinode... gues what... IT IS DEAD... no electrical current is going there. explain this one to me please....

So the red / light blue wire is dead, yet the solenoid is allowing power to the starter? There's not much else it could be besides the solenoid. Did you happen to try and disconnect the red / light blue wire while the problem was occuring, or is it if you hook up both the battery wire and starter wire to the solenoid (with the small red / light blue wire disconnected) that the starter still powers up?

 

[modelageek]

"the Jimmy" likes Elaine......

 

[Spowerback]

new starter solenoid fender mount
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/enginetroubleshooting.htm

 

[Big Jim M]

What??

Now what the HELL is this?

new starter solenoid fender mount

or Ing switch mounted on the steering column


http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/enginetroubleshooting.htm

 

[Angie]

ok, thought i would update this "dead thread". Changed the ignition switch (on column one) not key tumbler. This we thought fixed it, well only for ONE day, played with it by taking the new one out and re-installing it. nope, still same problem. Angie was completely pissed off, so she called an electrical place. they said sounds like the starter. They will do this on the 2.9. very common problem when they start to get old. There is a catching spot on them that makes them stay engaged. This is a common problem if you have the starter that has only one wire going to the starter. Well, we changed the starter the other day and as of yet, no probs. if it happens again we will be changing the key tumbler.

cheers

 

[Angie]

Over 2 weeks now with the new starter..... guess what.... this has solved the problem. Ignition switch my ass......

 

[modelageek]

25 posts to dx a bad starter. You ever heard of a multimeter. Some peeps should not be working on cars. next time "the aingie" has. an issue do us all a favor and brng it to a "mechanic". "The geek"

 

[Angie]

brng it to a "mechanic". "The geek"

obviously you haven't read the whole thread.....

 

[Big Jim M]

Dude!

brng it to a "mechanic". "The geek"

obviously you haven't read the whole thread.....

Your posting was about a starter "RUNNING ON".. Indicating electricity was running the starter. It has become obvious that the throwout bendix wasn't returning as it should and the ENGINE was spinning the starter...NOT the starter "running on".
Big JIm

 

[modelageek]

brng it to a "mechanic". "The geek"

obviously you haven't read the whole thread.....

my ass........I didn't...I read every dumb post you wrote.........bring "the angie" to "anyone but us" next time........