Ranger 7.5" 4.56's install

[bottledgt]

no rear should ever have that shit in it even after 100000 miles

 

[Hahnsb2]

you said you wouldn't come get it...

Hmm, if you bought something from a store that was defective, do you expect someone from the store to drive to your house to replace it or give you a refund?

 

[89_Black_Beast]

No I would take it back to the store. This a totally different thing though. I didn't buy it from a store. I bought it from a guy who lives 2hrs away and he gave me his word that it was good. When I talked to him the earlier he said he would find a way to come get it. Then he changed his story and said he wasn't a delivery service.

 

[MAKG]

Whether or not you're in the right, it would be a good idea to make it possible to make good. Two hours isn't THAT far. Is it really worth it? I've been known to drive 3-4 hours (one way) looking for junkyard parts.

Maybe the two of you can split the difference and meet halfway? Mike, you should be concerned that you're not 100% in the right here, and it can cause you more trouble than it's worth over 2-4 hours. I guarantee you'll spend a lot more time than that in court even if you win, if you let it go that far.

 

[mhughes165]

Whether or not you're in the right, it would be a good idea to make it possible to make good. Two hours isn't THAT far. Is it really worth it? I've been known to drive 3-4 hours (one way) looking for junkyard parts.

Maybe the two of you can split the difference and meet halfway? Mike, you should be concerned that you're not 100% in the right here, and it can cause you more trouble than it's worth over 2-4 hours. I guarantee you'll spend a lot more time than that in court even if you win, if you let it go that far.

i tried bein nice with this guy, he said there is carnage in that rear and its all i want to see, like i told him time and time again, in that shell 3 times spider gears had gone b4, so even after the entire rear was cleaned out i wasnt surprised to see some stuff in it, i had offered him a full refund before, but the simple fact is i have NO transportation, which is why i cant come and get the rear, i even told him just next time he was out this way for him to bring the rear and id give him the money for it, but that wasnt good enough for him, he told me he washed his hands of it once already, but he keeps draggin it out, i think its more less he still beleives hes in the right in the fact that the ring gear shouldnt ahve been notched....simple as that

 

[89_Black_Beast]

One you never offered more money for me to bring it back or I would have...believe me I would have. Two you made this rear sound like a gem which it isn't at all. Something whines/howls in the rear whether is the notched gear or bearings, I don't know. It makes noise and is full of metal or actually was full of metal... I cleaned it the best I could.

It just made me mad that you don't believe me. Like I'm making this up because its fun. Mike sorry if I bashed on you but I'm just very frustrated at the situation. You just didn't believe me and it made me more frustrated.

I would never take this to court i'm not like that, what a waste of my time and mikes.

 

[MAKG]

Well, if nothing else it sounds like he offered you a refund here.

Perhaps take him up on it?

I'd be skeptical as well -- or I'd at least want to see what happened -- if I got a report like yours. Not everything that can go wrong is bad setup, but some things are. I'd want a look at the contact pattern, as that can tell the difference. I'd also want a good look at spider gears and the old lubricant, and would want to feel the pinion and axle bearings.

 

[89_Black_Beast]

yea well i'm leaving for vaca. i'll be back in a week

 

[89_Black_Beast]

Mike, I just got back home... If you are willing to throw me some extra money back for bringing the rear back I will. I'm not asking for 100 extra bucks just something to compensate me for my gas, time and money I already put into the rear. When you put the rear into another truck you can hear the whine first hand. If you would have offered me money from the beginning to bring it back I would have... and I still will.

 

[89_Black_Beast]

Mike your a fuckin prick, karma is a bitch... I wish i'd be there to laugh in your face when it happens... I didn't think you were but I guess you are an asshole

 

[mhughes165]

Well, if nothing else it sounds like he offered you a refund here.

Perhaps take him up on it?

I'd be skeptical as well -- or I'd at least want to see what happened -- if I got a report like yours. Not everything that can go wrong is bad setup, but some things are. I'd want a look at the contact pattern, as that can tell the difference. I'd also want a good look at spider gears and the old lubricant, and would want to feel the pinion and axle bearings.

yea well i'm leaving for vaca. i'll be back in a week

Mike, I just got back home... If you are willing to throw me some extra money back for bringing the rear back I will. I'm not asking for 100 extra bucks just something to compensate me for my gas, time and money I already put into the rear. When you put the rear into another truck you can hear the whine first hand. If you would have offered me money from the beginning to bring it back I would have... and I still will.

Mike your a fuckin prick, karma is a bitch... I wish i'd be there to laugh in your face when it happens... I didn't think you were but I guess you are an asshole

i am not the asshole here, i told u what i wanted to see damage wise from the get go, with the sound its supposed to be making then there has to be some major damage to the RG or pinion, a bad contact pattern, or screwed up spiders, i have no doubt in my mind that when u pulled the carrier out u woulda seen if it wasnt wearing properly, and taken a picture as proof.

also, u said u were goin on vacation, ud be back in a week, u were gone for MUCH longer then a week, i went on vacation for some time as of late, and didnt feel like dealin with thsi while on vacation(even though i did have internet access and posted on here from time to time) i got back at 2pm today.

now, regardless, i will not be able to give someone MORE money to return something, i just dont work that way, never have, never will. i have a LARGE number of people that have purchased items from me on here that will dispute ur claims of me being a asshole. this is the end, im done with this, u didnt provide the pics showing damage, other then just what u cleaned out of the case that had 3 sets of spiders explode in it. would a insurance company cover the damages to a vehicle if u REFUSED to take it into get a estimate..... im done, had i known it was going to be such a hassle i woulda sold the rear to someone that knew what they were buying.......

 

[Jspafford]

Here is how I would handle it.

Mike, Offer the guy what he paid you for the axle and what he can prove he put into it. If it was as nice an axle as you say, then you would have no problem accepting it back with a list of new parts, because now it is essentially a new axle.

89, I wouldn't accept any less.

 

[MAKG]

Jspafford, there is quite a lot more to this than new parts. If he didn't set it up correctly, the new parts will not survive break-in. If this were an alternator, that approach would work great.

And it does NOT sound like he knows what he's doing. I'd insist on an inspection -- perhaps from a neutral third party at 89's expense if he doesn't want to trust Mike.

I think an original setup error is fairly likely, but far from a certainty. An example of something else that could go wrong, leading to very rapid failure, is water contamination from a deep water crossing, especially if the vent wasn't hooked up correctly. It is VERY suspicious that 89 is not cooperating with this. 2 hour drive or not; I'd take a 2 hour drive for a few hundred bucks.

 

[Jspafford]

Jspafford, there is quite a lot more to this than new parts. If he didn't set it up correctly, the new parts will not survive break-in. If this were an alternator, that approach would work great.

And it does NOT sound like he knows what he's doing. I'd insist on an inspection -- perhaps from a neutral third party at 89's expense if he doesn't want to trust Mike.

I think an original setup error is fairly likely, but far from a certainty. An example of something else that could go wrong, leading to very rapid failure, is water contamination from a deep water crossing, especially if the vent wasn't hooked up correctly. It is VERY suspicious that 89 is not cooperating with this. 2 hour drive or not; I'd take a 2 hour drive for a few hundred bucks.

Mhughes sold the axle to 89 stating it was a fresh rebuild by a professional shop. However in the first post from what I can tell he asks about notching the pin. It sounds to me like he was checking up to make sure what he did was right. Which makes it sound like he did the rebuild himself.

If I had driven two hours to pick up a supposibly good axle, you can bet I would not be willing to drive that same 2 hours back in order to drop it back off without some type of compensation. Why should 89 be penalized in money for gas because the axle was no good?

Someone is lying. We have no idea who it is. All we can do is offer up advice to both parties on the best way to settle it.

If 89 did nothing to the gearing then the axle was bad to begin with, and he needs compensated.

Your guess is as good as mine as to who's telling the truth.

 

[mhughes165]

Mhughes sold the axle to 89 stating it was a fresh rebuild by a professional shop. However in the first post from what I can tell he asks about notching the pin. It sounds to me like he was checking up to make sure what he did was right. Which makes it sound like he did the rebuild himself.

If I had driven two hours to pick up a supposibly good axle, you can bet I would not be willing to drive that same 2 hours back in order to drop it back off without some type of compensation. Why should 89 be penalized in money for gas because the axle was no good?

Someone is lying. We have no idea who it is. All we can do is offer up advice to both parties on the best way to settle it.

If 89 did nothing to the gearing then the axle was bad to begin with, and he needs compensated.

Your guess is as good as mine as to who's telling the truth.

i was the one who did the rebuild while workin at a shop, if u read over it, its said that i did the rebuild when i worked my old job, and was simply checking the way i learned todo gears in the 7.5 was not incorrect, it was a customers rear(who happened to be a friend of mine) and thats how i ended up with the rear after he decided to drop the truck on its nuts and replace it with a 8.8 to put behind a turbo 2.3