Ranger 7.5" 4.56's install

[rngrdngr]

when i put the 4.56 in my 7.5 rearend i bought the pin with the cut out and in 1 month i snapped it.i did it again with the stock pin and grinded down a small amount off the gears and it lasted good.i run 33s and its been 6 monthes with no problem. just make sure when u sett up the pinion there is 20 in lbs of resistance without the ring an diff. in place. good luck.

 

[Bent Bolt]

alright, heres the video that he had taken to try and show me that this rear is bad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnBSbztlGSI

Sounds very much like bad pinion bearings.

 

[89_Black_Beast]

The first part of the video is a 8.8 not a 7.5 its also setup correctly and has no whine or problems. There is no turbo blow off its the truck shutting off. Its a 4.0 with headers and exhasut...thats it, no turbo. The second truck is the one with the pile of shit rear that Mike here sold me. It had "200 miles on a full rebuild, all bearings and seals" The rear fluid was dark and metalic. I plulled the axels out and there was not only metal shavings in the axle tubes but chunks of metal. How does that get there on a rear that was just rebuilt by a "pofessional"????? This rear hums like a son of a B&%CH too!!!! If you really can't tell by that vid then make another cause this rear ain't right. Actually this rear is a pile of shit!!!!!!!!!!!

I took a vid of both trucks to show what it should sound like and what it shouldn't sound like. Watch and listen to the vid at 1:38. That is what this "freshly rebuilt rear" sounds like when I drive. Its like someone is next to me howling in my ear. Its f'n annoying and it makes me angry. The truck didn't do it with the old rear.... Mike you know what that rear oil looked like when I pulled the plug and it spilled on my tailgate. It was black with metalic glitter. Thats why we settled on a lower price. You said only 50 miles on it when you gave it to me...yea right. I wish you weren't a liar. So if there was only 50 miles on it, did you reuse the old oil??? There is no way oil will turn that color and get all that metal in it in 50 miles!!!! Let alone all the metal in the axle tubes.

 

[mhughes165]

The first part of the video is a 8.8 not a 7.5 its also setup correctly and has no whine or problems. There is no turbo blow off its the truck shutting off. Its a 4.0 with headers and exhasut...thats it, no turbo. The second truck is the one with the pile of shit rear that Mike here sold me. It had "200 miles on a full rebuild, all bearings and seals" The rear fluid was dark and metalic. I plulled the axels out and there was not only metal shavings in the axle tubes but chunks of metal. How does that get there on a rear that was just rebuilt by a "pofessional"????? This rear hums like a son of a B&%CH too!!!! If you really can't tell by that vid then make another cause this rear ain't right. Actually this rear is a pile of shit!!!!!!!!!!!

I took a vid of both trucks to show what it should sound like and what it shouldn't sound like. Watch and listen to the vid at 1:38. That is what this "freshly rebuilt rear" sounds like when I drive. Its like someone is next to me howling in my ear. Its f'n annoying and it makes me angry. The truck didn't do it with the old rear.... Mike you know what that rear oil looked like when I pulled the plug and it spilled on my tailgate. It was black with metalic glitter. Thats why we settled on a lower price. You said only 50 miles on it when you gave it to me...yea right. I wish you weren't a liar. So if there was only 50 miles on it, did you reuse the old oil??? There is no way oil will turn that color and get all that metal in it in 50 miles!!!! Let alone all the metal in the axle tubes.

what he doesnt tell u is that i offered him a full refund on it but he refused to bring the rear back to me, i was going to run it in my buddys ranger since i know its fine, or atleast it was when it was sold. HOWEVER he refused to bring it back out here and demanded i come out there to pickup the rear, since he was not willing to bring the part back to the store so to speak i am washing my hands of this.....

also, if u were able to take a video of what u claim was my rear, im rather surprised that when u pulled the rear apart and found metal in the tubes that u wouldnt have taken pictures???

that being said this thread is dead

 

[bottledgt]

hmm. wonder if it had a reused crush sleeve...lol. just pull the cover off and look at it and post pics. if theres that much shit in the oil there has to be some kind of carnage to see

 

[89_Black_Beast]

I didn't wanna bring it back to you... Why should I??? you didn't sell me what you said it was. I wasted enough time and gas money goin to pick it up let alone waste more time and money to dropping it back off. I save myself 40 bucks in gas and buy myself a overhual kit for 60 and cut my losses.

Mike you know what that rear fluid looked like so stop the bs on how it was a perfect rear when you sold it to me...

How do you post pics in here???

 

[bottledgt]

photobucket will work

 

[Evan]

what he doesnt tell u is that i offered him a full refund on it but he refused to bring the rear back to me, i was going to run it in my buddys ranger since i know its fine, or atleast it was when it was sold. HOWEVER he refused to bring it back out here and demanded i come out there to pickup the rear, since he was not willing to bring the part back to the store so to speak i am washing my hands of this.....

also, if u were able to take a video of what u claim was my rear, im rather surprised that when u pulled the rear apart and found metal in the tubes that u wouldnt have taken pictures???

that being said this thread is dead

So were there 50 miles on it or more than that?

 

[Evan]

hmm. wonder if it had a reused crush sleeve...lol. just pull the cover off and look at it and post pics. if theres that much shit in the oil there has to be some kind of carnage to see

 

[89_Black_Beast]

I'll take another video of the truck in daylight show you that its my truck with your rear with the spots that I welded and ground from the axle wrap. I'll show you the old backing plates I took off your rear and show you my old rear sitting on jack stands with no backing plates and brakes. Would that satisfy you and make you believe your rear is in my truck????

 

[mhughes165]

So were there 50 miles on it or more than that?

i told him there were 200 miles on it, upon speakin to the previous owner of the rear who it had been built for he told me he only drove 50 miles with it in the truck, id like to know why it took till now for u to mention any sort of metal chunks in the axle tube,

u paid 160 for the rear, if by some chance something is out of alingment an u know how todo rears then adjust the rear or put the r&p in ur truck and be done with it, it shouldnt be a problem to fix for someone who apparently setup a few 8.8's......

 

[89_Black_Beast]

Its not the fact that I can do it. Its the fact that you lied to me and didn't sell me what your "store" was selling!!! Why should I have to fix a rear that was "freshly rebuilt all bearings and seals less than 200 miles." If you lived closer I would have brought it back. You live to far. I already came and picked it up which would be fine if you would have sold me what you talked it up to be. Instead you sold me a piece of junk. So why don't you make it right and come pick it up. Easy as that!!! I told you a while ago in a pm that there was metal in the axle tubes so stop the bs of makin me look like the ass. I work from 6-3 and coach baseball from 3:30 - 7:30 and I don't have a garage. I work on my truck whenever I can. I got enough other shit that all this bs wasn't on the top of my list of things to do. Thats why it took me a while to get back to you about this pile. You saw the dark color of the fluid, the metallic in it and the cone of metal shavings stuck to the plug!!! You were standing right next to me!!!!

 

[89_Black_Beast]

All the shinny speckles are metal. All my rags look like that. The first pic is the first rag I pushed through the axle tube!!!

 

[mhughes165]

this is what u sent me on thursday, personally i know there was some shit on the plug and the fluid was dirty, but it woulda been fine with fresh fluid(since thats something anyone that puts a rear into a truck does), i TOLD u that the previous owner grenaded a couple sets of spiders in it himself before, and that thats prolly where there was some shit left in it, but it boils dow to the fact, that if u was told first off BEFORE U PUT IT IN THE TRUCK that there was metal chunks in the tube like u say, then id be mroe willing to work with it, but u didnt say anything about metal chunks until thursday

and also, how would u see metal chunks in the tube, explain that one, u would ahve had to remove the bearings and seals to look down in there, pretty much dissassembl of the complete rear, once again, if u had told me when u went to swap ur breaks over that there were metal in the tube(however u could see it) then we wouldnt ahve a problem

Yea well I'm not bringing this pile of shit back to you it's a waste of time and lots of gas money. I already wasted to much time and money. Also I pulled the axles out of the rear and the axle tubes are filled with not only metal shavings but chunks of fucking metal . If this was rebuilt 200 miles ago where did all this metal come from??? Unless some fuckin leprechaun dumped metal chunks and shavings in there but I doubt it. You might have put in new bearings and have the paper work and blah blah blah but you never cleaned it. By not cleaning it you fucked it all up again. The bearings are pitted and prolly shot the spider gears are pitted. Non the less the fuckin rear humms like a son of a bitch. Your a hack and sold me a pos rear. I guess thats why you don't work at the place you used to... when you supposedly proffesionally set up the rear.

I'm cutting my losses and learning from mistakes
I'm done with this I don't have time for this bullshit

that rear was rebuilt less then 200 miles ago and i have the paperwork from the purchase of the parts to prove it, it does have all new bearing and seals and i wont think twice about puttin it into another truck. there aint much i can do right now togo anywhere, when ur on ur way to OC then u can stop on the way, but i aint got no way to get around anywhere. the only way i can do anything is if u bring the rear to me, and ill give the money back

you may not be a delivery service but you sure lied to me about this rear. This rear was not fully rebuilt 200 miles ago. If so it was never cleaned out properly. I'll be in oc nj may 17th weeknd can you get it there? or meet me somewhere along the way.

fine, i dont have any way to come out there though, no way at all, it is impossible for me to come and get the rear, the only way for us to work ti out is if u take the ride out here, i got the money. if u dont want to come out here to get the money back then so be it and were done with this, but im not a delivery service, the rear will be going into another truck as soon as u drop it off. u WILL have to notch the ring gear on 4.56's if u install them into you rear.

so, the wrap is u come drop the rear off and get ur money or theres nothing i can do about it, sorry but thats all i can do

"Quote:
Originally Posted by 89_Black_Beast
I took a video of it and i'm posting it on youtube right now. It will take a little time to become veiwable but take a look tell me what you think. The first rear is my other truck second one it the one with your rear.
" Re-read what i sent to you before. The first truck is not a turbo. The first truck in the video is the same truck in all my other videos. Its the black ranger. At the 38 second mark is when i shut the truck off. You can see in the second vid how small my front tires are. Its obviously not a video of my lifted one. YOu can hear the gears whine like hell. Believe me i wouldn't go through this trouble of trying to get my money back if i thought it was fine. I'm gonna be using the money that you give me back to buy a new set of gears and rebuild my original rear.

dude, those look and sound like different trucks from the exhaust, the first truck sounds as if it is turbo, at the 38 second mark u can hear the distinct sound of a turbo blow off, ive worked with the 2.3 many times with a CAI and i know it does not make that sound, also why would u change the fluid as many times as u have in it if when u first put it in it was whining.

really, the video makes me not believe you, before i beilieved you fine, but it sounds liek a different truck entirely now and im not so sure

dotn get me wrong here im not tryin to hose anyone, if its whinin and i can get something better to show its whinin instead of the video where i cant even see the rear in the second video, then ill have no problems coming to pick up the rear and giving you your money back, becuase after i pick it up it would be going into a bII same day to test the rear

Whining 7.5 rear won't bring the vid up. Type in the search box "BrantsParty" and select search channels and all my videos will come up. You should see it then. Its uploaded now.

Thanx Yaader

well, im waitin for it to come up, its not available on youtube yet

I took a video of it and i'm posting it on youtube right now. It will take a little time to become veiwable but take a look tell me what you think. The first rear is my other truck second one it the one with your rear. I didn't get back to you cause I havent' had time to deal with this right now. I've been hellishly busy at work, school, and baseball. Anyways go to youtube and type in "Whining 7.5 rear" see if it comes up yet.

Thanks yaader

well, if ya say it whines then theres nothing i can do about it, its gonna take me a few days to get the cash together, i figure when i didnt hear back from u for a while that all was well. ill be in touch, gonna take me a few days to get money together.

later
mike

Hey mike this rear whines like crazy when on the throttle and off. This rear isn't set up right. You gotta come pick this thing up. I wasted to much money on it already to drive it back to ya. I cleaned it and welded and ground out the axle wrap marks. I ran clean oil in through it 3 times and its still metalic. Let me know what your thoughts are but this rear isn't what you said it was when I bought it at all...

Thanx Yaader

Hey Mike man i would love to have those gears but I just can't put them under my truck with the ring gear ground off. I know it sucks for you but believe me it sucks just as much for me. Anyways let me know when you got the money. Sooner the better so I could pick up some other gears. If at all possible I'd like to get this rear back to ya by the end of the week cause I'll be gone this weekend. Anyway let me know man.

Thanx Yaader

yo man, check the thread in ranger axles, thats what u gotta do to install 4.56's in the ranger, when u told me that i shoulda notched the cross pin it had me scratchin my head, the cross pins on the 7.5" are already prone to going, everyone that installs 4.56's into a 7.5 grinds the little bit off the one tooth, it has no contact with the pinion, id suggest just cleainin it out, throwing it under there and then if it really does give u a problem(which it shouldnt)

i mean, if its installed and really does make a noise then ill go ahead and give ya the loot back, but i wouldnt want ya to be pissed if u bought 4.56's and went to install them into your rear only to find out that u gotta do what i already did...

im just tryin to make it work out for both of us, cause ull put out more money if u gotta go out and buy gears and do all the bearings...

sorry if i wasnt exactly all there when u called the other day, i was just waking up when u called...

let me know man, shouldnt take but a hour to install that rear in the truck

i was startin to worry if i had been doing the 7.5's wrong in every ranger i had done over time....

later, mike

 

[89_Black_Beast]

I didn't pull the rear apart until after you told me you wouldn't pick it up. I took it down the road with no brakes the first couple times. Since your rear had 10 brakes on it I took my old smaller brakes off and put them on your rear. To do so you need to pull the axles so I did. That is when I had a great suprise of metal in the axle tubes. So to clean it out I then pulled out the carrier and bearings to clean everything. What should have been done when it was rebuilt...

I went to pick up the rear from you.
-couple days later I power washed it and welded the axle wrap marks
-couple days later I ground the welds and put new oil in it
-The next sunday I took my old rear out.
-The next weekend I put your rear in. Ran new oil in it and let it idle on jack stands for half hour. Changed the oil and did the same thing all over. It was still coming out metallic.
-I said screw it I wanna take it down the road and see if it whines
-It whined and makes noise you said you wouldn't come get it...
-Couple days later I pulled my backing plates off your rear to find metal in the tubes. You need to pull the axles to do so...

And blah blah blah blah blah the saga goes on...

This wasn't a one night project...