Project Black Betty // Sas, v8!

[88gt]

man i like your style of organization. just the way i do it

 

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

thanks... i figured if im gonna take an engine apart i might as well do it right.. unlike my friend when he put a new head on a 92 4.0... bolts everywhere nothing went back were it was man it was a mess... and to top that all off 2 of the head bolts were allen heads and they didnt get torqued all the way "flippin idiot.. gosh"

 

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

crank and camshaft are out.. heads stripped, block stripped time for the machine shop bore it out .010 more over get new pistons and rings and put it all back together with fresh paint

 

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

this is wat i aiming my dash gauge cluster to look like

 

[retep88]

I like how well organized you have everything. I don't think I could keep a shop that clean even if I tried!

 

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

lol thats not a shop thats a room in my basement haha

 

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

well still no progress on this waiting for my job at the mountain to start up which starts tomorrow.. once thats done my 01 ranger is fixed i will start on this again

 

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

well went to the machine shop yesterday and got a quote on what i needed to be done on my 302..

bored to either .040 or .050 depening on how bad the ridge is on the cylinder walls
crank balanced, polished
harmonic balancer balanced
flywheel balanced
do a valve job,
spot blast the entire block and heads
put new pistons on connectiong rods
.. pretty much a overhaul of everything will cost me roughly $1200 for just the machine work, i found a overhaul kit for 309, comes with new pistons, rings, bearings, gaskets and a bunch of other stuff

 

[bobbywalter]

well went to the machine shop yesterday and got a quote on what i needed to be done on my 302..

bored to either .040 or .050 depening on how bad the ridge is on the cylinder walls
crank balanced, polished
harmonic balancer balanced
flywheel balanced
do a valve job,
spot blast the entire block and heads
put new pistons on connectiong rods
.. pretty much a overhaul of everything will cost me roughly $1200 for just the machine work, i found a overhaul kit for 309, comes with new pistons, rings, bearings, gaskets and a bunch of other stuff

i know its cold as hell bud, but go find a lower mile roller block in the yard and field strip it and just get the block.

pull the head and if it has good crosshatching get one like that.....i wouldnt dick around with that block after looking at the piston and 30 over job. 302 blocks are cheap for a reason. cause they are cheap

 

[bobbywalter]

1200 is cheap for a quality worked engine too btw...but i am sure you know that

 

[strtspdlx]

1200$ is rediculous for a motor like that. you can find a completely stock 302 out of a mustang that runs very well and you wont have to touch besides cleaning and paint for at the most $500 or buy a jasper motor with a 3year warranty for $900 like my buddy did. i would not build that motor or persue it any further

 

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

well theres no scaring or deep scratches on the walls.. and i was gonna get it bored more anyways,my dad says he thinks the engine over heated once before thats why the piston cracked and it has a ridge at the top of the walls.. other than that it ran perfectly fine no knocks or loud noises just blowing blue smoke.. and the reason for the smoke was the rings and valve stem seals those are hard as rock and crack when i sqeeze them

 

[Kyle M.]

so how much will you end up having into it? You can buy a 347 DIY shortblock, complete and have a bad ass motor for about the same $$....just another option.

http://www.fordstrokers.com/diy-liberator-short-blocks/

 

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

well this is also a learning experience sowhat i planned on doing was ge a old engine, strip it down, rebuild it and run it.. and the price for the machine shop is just an estimate it depends if they have to do somthing or not like if the crank is already balanced and good enough for they specs they wont touch it.. same with the harmonic and flywheel .. cause they said balancing is wat most of the cost is.. the machine shop is basicly doing basic stuff to it but a comeplete job they are even gonna assemble the heads for me if i need to valve springs.. and also with this shop if i dont have all the money right away i can do payments on it and still take my engine home because i have a good friend that works there

 

[bobbywalter]

1200$ is rediculous for a motor like that. you can find a completely stock 302 out of a mustang that runs very well and you wont have to touch besides cleaning and paint for at the most $500 or buy a jasper motor with a 3year warranty for $900 like my buddy did. i would not build that motor or persue it any further

a balanced squared decked setup for 1200 is a good price. a beat to fawk 500 dollar engine is fun and a roll of the dice.


but anything more then 30 over on a 302 is stupid with stock blocks....the lil bastards are cheap to begin with. thats a waste of 1200 dollars...most machine shops i deal with would tell me to fawk off if i wanted more then 240 hp out of a block like this one....


evidence of "hot" and being ridged at 30 over is smelter fodder.

hate to see you learn that one the hard way, but the hard way was my lesson often as well...good luck.