Police

[TheBeast]

I love these stories. They always warm me up, maybe because its the stupidity of people that really gets me. Sniff.

My main thing is my house has oh about 5 cars sitting outside of it. People are coming and going, different cars are in and out. We've had complaints after complaints called on us for running a shop. Cops show up, we show them titles to all of our vehicles and the others are friends. I do some side work but not a legitimate business. They are generally cool about it though. I did almost get into a police chase on my quad at like 1 in the morning. Riding by the highway, cop pulls in, catches my bud on the suzuki, and I was on the honda hauling ass. Didn't even know he was behind me. Kind of cracked me up. He asked my bud if he needed to chase after me, needless to say they gave me a chance. Ended up I knew the guy to, which was even funnier. He handed me my liscense said, "Don't do it again" and then went on to talk about cars for an hour lol.. Most are pretty cool, but driving a mustang everyday I get targeted alot.

 

[BigJohn76]

I want to know why the dumbass wanted your address 4 times... weren't you at your own house? Isn't it on your damn license that he just handed back? WTF?

he asked to see if the guy was lying. he may have just pulled in a driveway to get away and the cop wanted to see if thats what he did. ask the same question multiple times and in different forms to catch people in a lie. obviously he was at his house, but the cop didnt know that at the time and it is what they are trained to do.

 

[AllanD]

My issue is that some cops seem to go through life with a chip
on their shoulder.

It is my position that those people should have never been made
cops in the first place, much less retained in the service.

"Attitude unsuited for dealing with the public" should be a valid reason for dismissal.
No they haven't done anything "wrong", but they shouldn't be out irritating the public
with a gun on their hip either.

Mabey he had a good attitude when he first joined the force, but like
lightbulbs some "burn out" sooner than others and keeping them around
is good for only one thing....
Pissing off virtually every member of the public he will intract with.

That makes the department look bad, it makes ALL departments look bad.
It creates a hostile environment between the police and the public

Things go downhill from there...

Gee... Look around... Ooops it's already happened...




If a cop expects me to be polite, he'd better BE polite.

If a cop with his lights off comes racing up behind me on a country road
and slams on his brakes to avoid hitting me THEN proceeds to follow me
SO CLOSELY that I cannot see his headlights, and FINALLY because his
actions are distracting me stops me after I put one wheel ONTO the
double yellow line for a "sobriety check"... then finally writes me a ticket
for "driving too fast for conditions"

What I asked in court was "What conditions might those be officer?
Dark with an ASSHOLE closely tailgating me?"

Most tickets have little to do with "safety" and even less
about "law enforcement" what they are plain and simple is
"Revenue collection" and frankly I've had enough of it.

I'd say it's a random & capriciously applied tax, but it isn't.
It is nothing less than institutional extortion under force of arms.

a cop who issues a ticket for "Careless driving" or any other offense
at the scene of an accident that he DID NOT PERSONALLY WITNESS
is committing an act of perjury, which under an evenly applied law
would result in a 5YEAR prison sentance.

Yet judges and magistrates ALLOW them to operate that way...

there's a word for this: CORRUPTION

Why are the judges corrupt? That's TOO easy, "conflict of interest"...
they share in the spoils!

And the only reason they continue to get away with it is that sheeple
continue to bend over and take it.

It's not that I'm mad as hell about it, it's that I'm perpetually mystified
why everyone else isn't!

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[TheBeast]

I'm with you Allan. Seems the country my grandfathers fought for doesn't exist anymore. The idea does, but in reality we are in a totally different world. I would love to live far away from all of that on a mountain somewhere, avoiding all the government problems, and the f'd up common society. The only problem is, you and I both know they will find me and drag me back kicking and screaming to throw me in jail for some evasion of public duty or some bullshit like that. It's a shame you can't live without their hand in your pocket.

 

[BigJohn76]

a cop who issues a ticket for "Careless driving" or any other offense
at the scene of an accident that he DID NOT PERSONALLY WITNESS
is committing an act of perjury, which under an evenly applied law
would result in a 5YEAR prison sentance.

Yet judges and magistrates ALLOW them to operate that way...

there's a word for this: CORRUPTION

Allan, i respect you and you seem very smart, however i must dissagree with this comment. in most state laws there is a clause that says the officer may write a ticket within a certain time window if the evidence is there even if they did not witness the infraction. this is with only certain citations and each state is different. it is like a seat belt ticket. in Iowa a cop has 4 hours to write a ticket for not wearing a seat belt if he even thinks he saw that u werent wearing it. most cops dont do this but some do. dont blame the cop for doing his job, blame the legislators for making bulls*it laws. in most cases, if you treat the cop with respect, they will return the favor.

some cops are pissy because of the retarded judges. a cop will have to deal with the same shithead every week because a judge lets the idiot out on probation or parol. blame the justice system higher up, not the cops.

 

[mini274]

he asked to see if the guy was lying. he may have just pulled in a driveway to get away and the cop wanted to see if thats what he did. ask the same question multiple times and in different forms to catch people in a lie. obviously he was at his house, but the cop didnt know that at the time and it is what they are trained to do.

i figured he was makin fun of my southern accent ive had alot of people do that around here they find it amusing for some reason...on another note im am officially legal in indiana now got everything swapped over so i dont have to worry about tn tags any more... took it out again today and passed three cops with all of them staring at me like " their goes that lowrider that just moved here with the turbo on it" but the bad part about it is i live 7 miles away from suicide doors main warehouse

 

[AllanD]

Allan, i respect you and you seem very smart, however i must dissagree with this comment. in most state laws there is a clause that says the officer may write a ticket within a certain time window if the evidence is there even if they did not witness the infraction. this is with only certain citations and each state is different. it is like a seat belt ticket. in Iowa a cop has 4 hours to write a ticket for not wearing a seat belt if he even thinks he saw that u werent wearing it. most cops dont do this but some do. dont blame the cop for doing his job, blame the legislators for making bulls*it laws. in most cases, if you treat the cop with respect, they will return the favor.

some cops are pissy because of the retarded judges. a cop will have to deal with the same shithead every week because a judge lets the idiot out on probation or parol. blame the justice system higher up, not the cops.

Laws vary from state to state.

If I came face to face with the law you describe in Iowa
it would get bloody.

What you describe about cops getting upset about judges
for letting criminals go? That is the absolute WRONG attitude
for a cop to have... the cops job ENDS when he's made an arrest
he should from beginning to end be the perfect "Joe Friday" and
should hold utter ambivilence for what happens later in the process,
because it isn't his job!

Justice isn't their job, Intelligently determining IF a crime has
been committed, and who is the likely culprit is.

How often do you see real criminal cases where AFTER a conviction is overturned due to new, incontrovertible exculpatory evidence the prosecutor
or lead investigator is quoted as saying "I still believe we had the right guy"

THAT is emotional investment where it DOES NOT BELONG!

I think ANY prosecutor who says something like that should be crucified.
Not metaphorically, LITERALLY NAIL some sense into the OTHERS who
might be tempted to get emotionally invested in the process.

Then you have cases where prosecutors push on a prominent case to further their career... Anyone know what name is comming next?

Mike Nifong.

I'm sure the devil has a special place in hell for people like Nifong,
and people like him .


Frankly THE flaw in the legal system is that people on
both sides get wrapped up in emotionalism in the parts of
the process that should be based PURELY on FACT.

But what's worse is when you get a sociopathic narcisist
like Nifong in the prosecutor's office...

If a cop is investing about the outcome of a case after
an arrest that upset is about HIM not about "the process"

And the fact that you think that is normal scares the hell out of me.

Cops and prosecutors should have about half the emotion of a wooden indian in the throws of an overdose of thorazine.

anyone remember that ultra calm cop in Maine or New Hampshire that sounded like Stephen Wright even while the guy was screaming at him "You're ****ing crazy!" over and over?

That guy was PERFECT.

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[BigJohn76]

yes that cop stayed cool and collected. no cops should not let emotions dictate their actions, but it is part of human nature. the good cops can overcome it but some don't. we have a trooper around here that doesnt like motorcycle riders. every rider i talk to has been pulled over by him for some stupid reason. there is a story behind it i am just not sure what.

there was just an accident in Sioux Falls that resulted from a high speed chase. the guy was drunk and running from the cops because he was drunk. he had just gotten out of prison after serving 2.5 yrs of a 5 yr sentence for his 7th DWI in 10 yrs. he killed the driver of the vehicle he hit. now tell me that as an officer that had arrested that guy before this accident wouldnt affect your concience? you wouldnt feel as if you had done something wrong that this guy is out on the streets and had just killed an innocent person? yes i agree that this is not the officers job, but it happens.

i hope that if i get a job as an officer that i can be better than that, but only time will tell. i hope to get the best training to avoid it and to not fall into bad habits, but it may happen. there is no way to know for sure.

 

[AllanD]

You follow the rules do your job and if that gets to you become
a fireman or a paramedic instead.

Emotional is the antithesis of what a cop or prosecutor needs to be.

If you know you followed the rules and that there was nothing
you could have done under the law, whatever happens later isn't
your responsibility, criminals and idiots will do what they will do.

Bad things happen, it is a falsehood to believe they can be prevented.
and to be trapped by 20:20 hindsight is pointless emotional foolishness.

"If only I had...."

If only your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle.

So what can you do about it? Not a damned thing, move on.

Therein lies the core of "emotionalism", the idea that it could have
turned out differently and that because it didn't SOMEONE
(other than the poor asshole who did the crime) was responsible....
that is I guess a kind of inverse narcisism, which frankly is as sick
as the normal kind of narcisism.

the idea is things that have already happened cannot be changed
and spending time wishing otherwise is only capable of wasting more time where something constructive might have been accomplished

But people in an emotional trap tend to just dig themselves
deeper.

Think cops are immune? think again.

Why do you think that the suicide rate of cops is second only to that of pediatric oncology nurses?


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[Bryan22]

I just met this guy a couple of days ago who said he got a DUI in his driveway. His puppy chewed up his cell phone charger for the house so he was in his truck charging his phone.

Only thing he was wearing was pajama bottoms, no shoes noi shirt, no wallet, nada.
And he gets a DUI because the cop said he had the intention to drive, which is obviously bull shit.

I think i'm gonna take some of your advice here allen and put a private driveway sign in my front yard, because i am deffenitely one of those who likes to work with an open beer in my garage.

 

[AllanD]

I hope he had the intelligence to fight it...

The one that cracked me up was the guy who got arrested for
DUI while riding his HORSE home from the bar...

Horses generall know how to get home.

So riding your horse drunk the most dangerous thing is you
might pass out, fall off and break your silly neck...

what I really want are the new pictogram signs where in
addition to the words "Danger Mines" it shows a dismembered
stick figuire superimposed on an explosion

They would fit well with my doormat that says "Go Away!"




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[racsan]

ive said for years that most law enforcement isnt about public safty, but merly rvenue generation. i can drive through the middle of town at night (12-12:30) and not see a patrol car, but if i skirt the outside of town there will be a few hid amongst the landscape, just waiting for someone to be doing over 35, never mind that there is nothing out there, but because its on the outskirts and there is potential for someone to forget they are still within the corporation limit, its a easy $ ticket for them to get. im glad my cruise will set at low speeds. its saved me on more than one occasion.

 

[Ranger4657]

about a year ago i was pulled over for running a red light, when actually i was doing 40 through the intersection about 5 feet before the line when it turned yellow, no chance of stopping safely, i was accused of drinking and doing drugs had to submit to a breath test which i blew 0's and the road side test...... lol.... needles to say after it was all said and done, he said he would let me go because he was looking for drunk drivers. i called the police station to complain , but as expected my complaint was met with disregard and no respect. to hell with em.

funyist part about it is i play cards every now and then with 15 guys who are cops... they get shit housed and at the end of the night they play rock paper scissors to see who drives home....

cops are so hypocritical

 

[BigJohn76]

I hope he had the intelligence to fight it...

The one that cracked me up was the guy who got arrested for
DUI while riding his HORSE home from the bar...

Horses generall know how to get home.

So riding your horse drunk the most dangerous thing is you
might pass out, fall off and break your silly neck...


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about a year ago i was pulled over for running a red light, when actually i was doing 40 through the intersection about 5 feet before the line when it turned yellow, no chance of stopping safely, i was accused of drinking and doing drugs had to submit to a breath test which i blew 0's and the road side test...... lol.... needles to say after it was all said and done, he said he would let me go because he was looking for drunk drivers. i called the police station to complain , but as expected my complaint was met with disregard and no respect. to hell with em.

funyist part about it is i play cards every now and then with 15 guys who are cops... they get shit housed and at the end of the night they play rock paper scissors to see who drives home....

cops are so hypocritical

there are 2 brothers around here that are famous. one night they were at the farm drinking and decided to go to the bar. they knew they were too drunk to drive so they rode the horses INTO the bar. rode up some steep steps, had someone open the door for them, rode in, turned around and rode out. the horses knew the way home so they were ok. they say it was one of the smartest things they ever did.



yes cops can be hypocritical. they dont realize that they live in a glass house and their every move is being watched.
i have sat at the DNR officer's house and watched him shoot rabbits that were on the ROAD. he didnt like them around because they get into his garden.
the one state trooper i have met that i liked told me that if he goes drinking, he always has a sober person drive him home, either that or he drinks at home. This is the guy that most officers should be like, but he is one of the few. it's disturbing.

 

[trail B2]

We have an officer in my town who had a tendency to haul things home.A couple of things were brought to everyones attention and nothing ever happened me or you would have been put up on charges but he went through never happen again type thing.I believe that not every cop is a crook but I believe your average cop is more of a criminal than your average citizen.Don't feel bad for our local finest he just retired at 55 so we get to pay him for about 25 years to stay home.That being said never had any problems but I always treat them with respect and got the same on return.