alucard0822
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- Jan 31, 2014
- Messages
- 7
- Vehicle Year
- 2002
- Transmission
- Manual
I've been chasing an odd misfire for weeks, have never had this much trouble finding the source, but this one is beating me up, and wanted to see if anyone could help. I was a tech at a couple independent shops from 95 to 05, got out of the shop and took a desk job ever since, pretty much only working on my own vehicles, but still have all my tools and test equipment, and access to Mitchell, along with the Torque pro app and Bluetooth OBDII adapter, but been awhile since I turned wrenches for a living, and am getting to the point of chasing my tail.
My truck is a 2002 Ranger Edge 2wd extended cab, manual trans 3.0(U) with 235K miles, babied and bought used in 04 at 30K. I only put about 10K mi a year on it now, all trips are long enough to warm fully.
The problem is what feels like a misfire under light acceleration at low RPMs, under 2K, with steady throttle and speed it will stumble and miss for a couple seconds, then run fine. There is no misfire at idle and higher RPMs, no loss of power, no loss of fuel mileage, no CEL, no active or history codes. It only happens once the engine gets to temp, and outside temps are around freezing or below. It only happens after coasting in gear at low RPMs, the longer you coast the longer it will misfire once I start accelerating, does not seem to matter how much I accelerate as long as the RPMs stay under 2K. A long gentle downhill coast followed by light 5th gear acceleration will misfire for about 5 seconds, this is about as bad as I can get it to act. It started a month ago, got progressively worse throughout a week, but now seems pretty consistent.
I have done a fair amount of work in the last year or two to it, the problem didn't happen along with any particular job.
Clutch, master/slave cyl, rear crank seal, trans reseal
cam synch and sensor using O.E. alignment tool
front cover leaking coolant externally, resealed cover, replaced timing chain, gaskets/seals, water pump and hoses.
New belt, tensioner assm, and idler pulley
fuel filter, IAC(was sticking closed) decarb with seafoam through intake, clean throttle and MAF
coil, wires, plugs, suspected ignition miss, old plugs were worn a little, wires were old, coil was original, didn't make a difference. Tried swapping a new MAF, suspected the intake temp component was bad(problem only occurs when really cold) didn't make a difference
Checked all vaccum lines and connections, replaced a couple old hoses, ziptied possible loose connections, checked for leaks with carb cleaner, none found, smoke tested, none found.
Fuel pressure test, jumped right to 62psi, and held steady while running, measured at the rail valve.
compression test, pumped up quick to around 160 on all cylinders and held pressure dry. Vaccum gauge holds a steady 19# At 750rpm idle and 2k RPM fast idle, jumps quick to about 24# when snapping the throttle closed
No CEL, no codes, O2 sensors appear to be switching normal(they are original), TPS graphing good, only thing that the torque app is showing odd is a long term fuel trim around -5% to - 10% on occasion. At this point I'm just about out of ideas. The only thing I suspect between the symptoms and slightly off fuel trim is a leaking injector loading up fuel during engine braking, then misfiring due to excess fuel till it clears in that cylinder under acceleration. Of course if I engine brake and roll to a stop, it idles fine, and only occurs under light/low rpm accel when taking off. Without knowing which cylinder/s it is happening on, It would be a $200 guess to replace all the injectors, and I'm not that confident that is what it is.
So long story short, please help
My truck is a 2002 Ranger Edge 2wd extended cab, manual trans 3.0(U) with 235K miles, babied and bought used in 04 at 30K. I only put about 10K mi a year on it now, all trips are long enough to warm fully.
The problem is what feels like a misfire under light acceleration at low RPMs, under 2K, with steady throttle and speed it will stumble and miss for a couple seconds, then run fine. There is no misfire at idle and higher RPMs, no loss of power, no loss of fuel mileage, no CEL, no active or history codes. It only happens once the engine gets to temp, and outside temps are around freezing or below. It only happens after coasting in gear at low RPMs, the longer you coast the longer it will misfire once I start accelerating, does not seem to matter how much I accelerate as long as the RPMs stay under 2K. A long gentle downhill coast followed by light 5th gear acceleration will misfire for about 5 seconds, this is about as bad as I can get it to act. It started a month ago, got progressively worse throughout a week, but now seems pretty consistent.
I have done a fair amount of work in the last year or two to it, the problem didn't happen along with any particular job.
Clutch, master/slave cyl, rear crank seal, trans reseal
cam synch and sensor using O.E. alignment tool
front cover leaking coolant externally, resealed cover, replaced timing chain, gaskets/seals, water pump and hoses.
New belt, tensioner assm, and idler pulley
fuel filter, IAC(was sticking closed) decarb with seafoam through intake, clean throttle and MAF
coil, wires, plugs, suspected ignition miss, old plugs were worn a little, wires were old, coil was original, didn't make a difference. Tried swapping a new MAF, suspected the intake temp component was bad(problem only occurs when really cold) didn't make a difference
Checked all vaccum lines and connections, replaced a couple old hoses, ziptied possible loose connections, checked for leaks with carb cleaner, none found, smoke tested, none found.
Fuel pressure test, jumped right to 62psi, and held steady while running, measured at the rail valve.
compression test, pumped up quick to around 160 on all cylinders and held pressure dry. Vaccum gauge holds a steady 19# At 750rpm idle and 2k RPM fast idle, jumps quick to about 24# when snapping the throttle closed
No CEL, no codes, O2 sensors appear to be switching normal(they are original), TPS graphing good, only thing that the torque app is showing odd is a long term fuel trim around -5% to - 10% on occasion. At this point I'm just about out of ideas. The only thing I suspect between the symptoms and slightly off fuel trim is a leaking injector loading up fuel during engine braking, then misfiring due to excess fuel till it clears in that cylinder under acceleration. Of course if I engine brake and roll to a stop, it idles fine, and only occurs under light/low rpm accel when taking off. Without knowing which cylinder/s it is happening on, It would be a $200 guess to replace all the injectors, and I'm not that confident that is what it is.
So long story short, please help
