nobody wants to buy it so...

[feellnfroggy]

They're such good quotes though, LOL.......

 

[pontiacfieroguy]

im not trying to thread jack or be a whore but the liquid o2 thing got me thinking about something. for drag racing instead of a turbo or supercharger setup why not have a large oxygen tank and seal the intake and just blast it with 30-40psi pressure of oxygen? would that not give the same results? does a turbo not simply compress air into the intake?

 

[LearjetMinako]

You're both wrong. It's 1.21 jiggawats!

You guys may know trucks, but jack about movies!

I say you are all wrong. What the heck is a "Jiggawatt"? Its gotta be "Gigawatt" (W x 10^9).

 

[feellnfroggy]

LOL I been waiting to see who would catch the spelling of that...... Learjet once again proves to be the top mind. LOL

 

[Hopman]

im not trying to thread jack or be a whore but the liquid o2 thing got me thinking about something. for drag racing instead of a turbo or supercharger setup why not have a large oxygen tank and seal the intake and just blast it with 30-40psi pressure of oxygen? would that not give the same results? does a turbo not simply compress air into the intake?

There are some safety concerns doing that. I'd hate to be the guy trying to put out a fire fueled by PURE OXYGEN!!! Even seen the pics from the Apollo 1 fire? Pure O2 atmosphere.

Second, the force of the explosion would be so great, no normal racing block could hold it.

 

[gwaii]

There are some safety concerns doing that. I'd hate to be the guy trying to put out a fire fueled by PURE OXYGEN!!! Even seen the pics from the Apollo 1 fire? Pure O2 atmosphere.

Second, the force of the explosion would be so great, no normal racing block could hold it.

not to mention the 'cutting torch'effect.with pure oxygen going into a hot environment,the metal that the engine is made of would become fuel,as when you use a cutting torch....it doesn't just melt the metal away-a jet of pure oxygen is shot against heated metal,causing the metal to burn.....in chemical terms,burning is simply combining a fuel(such as iron[fe])with oxygen[o] to create another compound(ferrous oxide,also known as rust when the reaction happens slowly).this reaction also works well with aluminum(producing aluminum oxide)and almost any other metal.atmospheric oxygen content is about 21%,most of the rest is nitrogen....this buffers the reaction,even in a compressed state...although it is more volatile this way.consider the way blowers used to fly into the air before straps became mandatory.

 

[necessaryevil]

i wonder how many hp junkys out there would pay to have a block, heads and pistons made from Carbon reinforced tungsten just to see the hp numbers from using liquid O2

 

[gwaii]

sorry.....carbon and tungsten burn too.

 

[mentalbreakdown00]

Ive got some unobtanium i'll sell ya.....

 

[gwaii]

Ive got some unobtanium i'll sell ya.....

that may work....give me a good deal?before someone asks,i should explain why liquid o2 can be used in a rocket-it is because they are external combustion engines;the reaction takes place in an open area behind the nozzle as opposed to the internal combustion engine where it is in a confined space.theoretically,if a precise amount of o2 and fuel were injected seperately into the combustion chamber in a way that the o2 could not react with anything else but the fuel,it could work.....and you would not need an intake tract or valves,just exhaust.it would be pretty tough to control the o2 in a confined space so it could not react with the surrounding cylinder or piston,though.

 

[feellnfroggy]

that may work....give me a good deal?before someone asks,i should explain why liquid o2 can be used in a rocket-it is because they are external combustion engines;the reaction takes place in an open area behind the nozzle as opposed to the internal combustion engine where it is in a confined space.theoretically,if a precise amount of o2 and fuel were injected seperately into the combustion chamber in a way that the o2 could not react with anything else but the fuel,it could work.....and you would not need an intake tract or valves,just exhaust.it would be pretty tough to control the o2 in a confined space so it could not react with the surrounding cylinder or piston,though.

Even in rocket tanks the O2 and other fuel are kept seperate, they mix on release and then burn in hte atmosphere.

 

[gwaii]

Even in rocket tanks the O2 and other fuel are kept seperate, they mix on release and then burn in hte atmosphere.

exactly....but i was having another thought,about how much liquid o2 you would need to carry.i was thinking with a 13:1 ratio that engines like to run at,you would need 13 gallons of o2 for every gallon of gas.....but this is not the case,as that ratio is for air-not o2.air is only 21% oxygen,so if we could make an engine run with pure o2 we could drop that ratio to 3:1,so a 10 gallon gas tank and a 30 gallon o2 tank would do.

 

[necessaryevil]

what you ran an inert gas to help control the reaction like guys running water injection?

 

[mentalbreakdown00]

or just buy my unobtanium...

 

[mentalbreakdown00]

300 buck a pound and its yours, a pound is the size of a marble hehehehehehe