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I get the need for GFCI, I just think the chances of that being an issue are much lower than anytime I fire up an angle grinder... there's arteries in all sorts of vulnerable areas near where I'm grinding... just as one example
 
Trying to find 8-foot LED shop lights is becoming a challenge. I want something with 8-foot LED light tubes, and most everything I see has the LED integrated. I don't want an integrated light. I want to be able to replace it if it burns out.
 
The 8 foot led's that I have seen, I am not impressed. Some of them are made of plastic and they sag. I never have personally messed with them, it might be they come with center supports that whoever did it, did not install.

The 4ft's are more common and cheaper. I actually use the LED 4ft bulbs you can get at Walmart. They work very well and are cheap. I have installed hundreds of the great value Walmart 4ft bulbs, and in the past 10 years I have not had one fail. I had a vendor want to start selling me LED's wholesale, and I told him what I use and the price, and he said he could not match it.

You used to be able to get 8 ft lights that took 4, 4 ft bulbs and dual ballasts. That is the one thing about the Walmart bulbs, they are drop in and do require a ballast.

Now the Great Value LED screw in bulbs, that is a different story. I was buying the 60w equivalent, and I have had a lot of failures with those. So much so I stopped using them and started using the name brand bulbs that Walmart sells. They are GE or Phillips, I can't remember which. I am having better luck with those.

P.S. I am also impressed on how bright the walmart 4ft leds are.
 
The 8 foot led's that I have seen, I am not impressed. Some of them are made of plastic and they sag. I never have personally messed with them, it might be they come with center supports that whoever did it, did not install.

The 4ft's are more common and cheaper. I actually use the LED 4ft bulbs you can get at Walmart. They work very well and are cheap. I have installed hundreds of the great value Walmart 4ft bulbs, and in the past 10 years I have not had one fail. I had a vendor want to start selling me LED's wholesale, and I told him what I use and the price, and he said he could not match it.

You used to be able to get 8 ft lights that took 4, 4 ft bulbs and dual ballasts. That is the one thing about the Walmart bulbs, they are drop in and do require a ballast.

Now the Great Value LED screw in bulbs, that is a different story. I was buying the 60w equivalent, and I have had a lot of failures with those. So much so I stopped using them and started using the name brand bulbs that Walmart sells. They are GE or Phillips, I can't remember which. I am having better luck with those.

P.S. I am also impressed on how bright the walmart 4ft leds are.

Home Depot has this 8-foot light that takes (4) T8 4-foot LED bulbs:


They have that same light with 4000k bulbs as well.
 
Home Depot has this 8-foot light that takes (4) T8 4-foot LED bulbs:


They have that same light with 4000k bulbs as well.
It's unusual they include the bulbs. I wonder if they use ballasts or direct wired bulbs? I kept going back and forth on it, I wired a whole house with direct wire, but then I started using the drop in that require a ballast. It turned out better for me to use the drop in, since it's quicker for me to install the bulbs 90% of the time, and I can even mix and match regular tubes and LED tubes. But it's whatever you want to go with.

That light from homedepot may just be a empty metal shell with sockets in it if it's using direct wire bulbs.
 

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