Mot & moe

[Mark_88]

No, this isn't a story about badly named twins...

I was hauling a load of metal to the yard today and got pulled over by an unmarked cruiser (well, actually, there was an Officer inside). He looked at my load and said "Is that metal for scrap" and I replied in the affirmative.

He then told me they were doing spot checks and to follow him. As I was following him to the arena parking lot about a mile away I was thinking of how I was going to get home if they found something wrong because my CAA membership just expired and I won't renew it till next week. But, then again, they'd probably impound the truck so I'd only have to hitchhike about ten k's and maybe walk a few k's in the freezing wet weather. Wonderful, knot~

Anyway, we get there and one guy is doing the visual inspection from the MOT and, to my surprise, he comes up with just a burnt out signal lamp and headlamp. I found the head lamp plug had fallen off so I fixed one of them right there. He was being pretty thorough and another inspector beside him says "I'm a big Ranger fan"...I was too nervous to carry that any further, but he might even be a member on here...but, all told, they were pretty decent about the whole thing.

Then the MOE guy wants to look at the engine for emission controls, or lack thereof. Dang~. No EGR tube (still looking I told him) and no air pump (can't be found in Canada so far). He then gives me a long explanation of how things work and then proceeds to write me a ticket for the missing components. $365...ouch. I wasn't about to go into a spiel about having no job and barely being able to get the drive clean, license plates, renew my DL and do everything else on what I was getting paid to do nothing, and I'm glad I was able to keep my yap shut.

The MOE guy was nice as well, and told me that I should fix the EGR tube and fight the ticket and he would see about reducing it to $0 if I follow up on his recommendations. Just a matter of going to court in six months time. Heck, I could win a lottery and be on an island somewhere by that time.

It wasn't a total writeoff though...I made $25 on the load, so I only came up a -$340 for today's efforts...

 

[BlackBII]

Ouch.

Good luck on finding the parts.

rockauto.com??????????????

 

[Surrey]

No EGR tube? But didn't 88 Rangers stop using EGR??

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Sounds like you may be able to fix the stuff and have the ticket ripped up....lets hope so!
For my edification, what's MOT, MOE?

Richard
Edit; Surrey has a point. I know my '86 ranger doesn't come stock with an engine check light in the dash, I had to point this out to the mechanic doing my salvage inspection.

 

[robertc1024]

No EGR tube? But didn't 88 Rangers stop using EGR??

That's what I always heard. Mine doesn't have one.

 

[Mark_88]

Ouch.

Good luck on finding the parts.

rockauto.com??????????????

Thanks, the MOE guy was going to give me a number in Cali to call...think he forgot while he was having the big O writing my ticket...but I was given the number by Canadian Tire when I had the E-test done...have to go looking for it...

No EGR tube? But didn't 88 Rangers stop using EGR??

Not on mine...it's carbed...and most of the EFI that I've seen up to 97 had EGR tubes that I can use...just have to find an 88 2.0 carbed engine to find the piece (that I recently threw out due to an MOT mixup saying I didn't need an E-test) that goes from the intake around behind the engine.

Sounds like you may be able to fix the stuff and have the ticket ripped up....lets hope so!
For my edification, what's MOT, MOE?

Richard
Edit; Surrey has a point. I know my '86 ranger doesn't come stock with an engine check light in the dash, I had to point this out to the mechanic doing my salvage inspection.

MOT is Minstry of Transport and MOE is M of Environment...the two orgs that you have to satisfy in Ontario...and mine doesn't have a CEL either since it isn't OBD...well, there is OBD, but it's never been used by me or any mechanics...not even sure what it actually does...

 

[Surrey]

Ahhh yes, you have a 2.3... I was thinking about my 2.9 when I said 88s stopped using EGR.

That sucks man, I havn't heard of them doing spot checks out west... That a common thing for them to do around your parts?

 

[Mark_88]

Ahhh yes, you have a 2.3... I was thinking about my 2.9 when I said 88s stopped using EGR.

That sucks man, I havn't heard of them doing spot checks out west... That a common thing for them to do around your parts?

Yeah, they do it on the highways mostly...got pulled into a Burger King parking lot on the way to work a few years back...they were taking a LONG time looking at something in the engine bay and I was getting late for work. I asked them what the problem was and they asked me to have a look at something...turned out they were wondering where the foam was coming from (my first engine had serious blow-by issues) and thought something was leaking like power steering (which I don't have)...

I calmly explained that they were seeing foam as a by-product of a wonky engine that I was in the process of replacing if I keep the job that they are holding me up from...and they laughed and let me go...

But this was near a scrap yard on a highway that is not that well travelled...they were targeting trucks hauling scrap...but also had a few that were empty...when I was leaving they had a black lifted Dodge that they were giving a hard time about something in the engine bay...think he removed some emission stuff because the driver did not look happy...fairly new truck too...

 

[ozziemo27]

I didn't know Canada was a socialist nation?

 

[BlueChariot]

I didn't know Canada was a socialist nation?

It does have quite a bit of red on the flag.

This kind of stuff is what makes me happy to live in a place with no E tests, and where as far as I can tell the cops can't just fiddle with your engine bay.

 

[Beef52751]

Cops don't look at anythiny more than exhaust around here, and they only do that before they write out a loud exhaust ticket. Generally, they write "Fix it" tickets, so you sign it and send it off and carry on with what you were doing before

 

[grey]

I've never had any mot inspections done..... Even driving around with no bed and front bumper for 2 months. Oh and my exhaust is pretty loud too

 

[racsan]

my '88 2.3 had egr. mine was efi though. dont recall it having a air pump.

 

[86 slo-vo]

a KY cop probably couldnt tell you the difference in the radiator cap and a valve cover, thank god we get away with everything or i would be screwed

 

[racsan]

doesnt seem like it would be legal to just pull anyone over then poke around under the hood, its one thing to point out a bulb out or a missing mirror but to look for all the original factory parts under the hood? and if you had swapped out engines. think how funny it would be to have someone staring at a carbed 302 where a 2.0 four once was. i 'spose canada has different rules, this is the first time ive heard being in canada is a bad deal. (well their fuel costs too) i do try to make my "modifications" still appear as stock equipment, granted the right equipment would narc me out, but id pass on a visual look-over.