More Overheating Problems...

[79Camaro]

Quick explanation

My truck has been having more overheating problems, this time not that bad though. I thought it was the radiator, so I rented a pressure tester, which revealed that the radiator was indeed bad(few small leaks). I figured I would replace the water pump while I'm at it, as I didn't know how old the one on there was. Everything was going good(besides the belt tensioner not swinging) until the very last bolt on the water pump. With barley any pressure applied the head of the bolt just snapped off. It was one of the small bolts that broke. Being that it's not threaded into the pump I was able to slide the pump itself off. Now the threads just sticks out 1/4in from the block, How do I get it out? I tried vise grips but I can't really get that good of grip on it with it's position(under the A/C,P/S bracket), and I hammered a 5.5mm socket onto it but it just spun on it. I figured I would start a thead on here before I F'ed it up beyond repair. And to rub it in the old pump looks great and didn't even need to be replaced.

Here is a photo. It's one of the small bolts, on the far right(standing infront of the truck) near the lower radiator hose connection.

 

[mikebarrows23]

If you can access a welder, maybe you can weld a socket or something on the stud and work it out of there, also a good idea would be to use a torch and heat up the stud first. Not much else you can do.

 

[chrwilkins30]

there might be enough bolts that press it on to not even have to worry about it.just put some of the water pump sealer on it and i would just keep an eye on it. I would try what the guy above me said but if that doesn't work out i would try this.

one of my thermostat housing bolt was broke from the PO and when i changed the thermostat I couldn't get the damn broken bolt anywhere. Did what i just explained and not a single drop and leaked.

 

[79Camaro]

Unfortunatly I don't have a welder nor access to one. I was thinking that with all the remaining bolts still intacked that it might not leak as you mentioned, if I use some sealent. But I have torn this cooling system down so many time that I would prefer to do it right, and replace that bolt and not have to worry about it. I'm soaking in in WD40 for the night, then maybe try to heat it up with a torch(lightly) and go at it again with the vise grips.

 

[94 lngbd]

if you can get thin nuts then maybe you can double nut them together & try to get stud out using the double nut as a head of a bolt idea, or like another had mentioned about welding, I though would just weld a nut unto the end of the stud a nut

 

[79Camaro]

Well I just tried the two nut method, and no luck there. the inner nut just poped the outer nut off the shaft.

 

[Rouphis]

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[--weezl--]

you could do the pound a socket trick. but fill the socket with jb weld or something solid like that... just make sure you don't get any jb weld holding the bolt to the block!

 

[Frank The Tank]

can you thread two nuts on then jam nut it and get a wrench on the first nut?

 

[--weezl--]

can you thread two nuts on then jam nut it and get a wrench on the first nut?

*ahem*

Well I just tried the two nut method, and no luck there. the inner nut just poped the outer nut off the shaft.

 

[Frank The Tank]

hmm......... heat it pour candle wax on the base of the threads even a little propane torch will get it hot enough.

if you have a miniture vice (maybe i'm the only person that carries one in their toolbox) vice it onto there and unscrew.

in the future..... when dealing with older equipment it's always a good idea to replace bolts "as they are pretty dang cheap compared to time and tapping"

 

[--weezl--]

the other thing you can do, if you have the room, is grind two sides of the shaft so you have a flat section on both (spend the time and do it right, be very careful) then put an open ended wrench on there that will have lots of bite

 

[79Camaro]

in the future..... when dealing with older equipment it's always a good idea to replace bolts "as they are pretty dang cheap compared to time and tapping"

Thats what I aways think, but how do you get the older bolts out with out them breaking?lol

Theres not that much room to grind because of the A/C,P/S bracket only move about 2inches away. Maybe if I take my time and use a hand file. I think I might try putting the bolts on again, only this time try using loctite. Think it might work? How much farther do you think the blot goes in? All the others of the same size were about 1in total. Do you think I might have to remove the timing cover?

 

[shane96ranger]

Same thing happened on my buddies Mustang. We tried all of the things recommended here, and finally just drilled it out. We helicoiled it, and it was like new again. It takes a very steady hand and a little room to do it though.

I would remove the timing cover and take it to a machine shop if I were you.

 

[shane96ranger]

By the way, how did you change the name of your thread?