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Lifter tap at cold start help..


toms.abpg

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Ill make this short as possible, iy swapped the entire engine in this truck with one from a wrecking yard last year. It runs perfect. When i start it up after sitting for a couple days it has a pretty noticable lifter tap for about 2 or 3 seconds. Its done this since i swapped the engine. It has 5-30w synthetic in it and a stp filter. Motor only has 150k. Any recommendations? I live in louisiana so it stays warm. Heavier oil?
 
Lucas Oil Stabilizer

It sticks to everything. Should fix it.
 
If you leave it sit for a bit you can "re-prime" the oil pump by holding the gas pedal to the floor and crank the engine. (It wont start with the pedal down, the computer shuts off the fuel injectors. it's called clear flood mode)

Crank it like this for 5-6 seconds and then release the pedal. Engine will fire up and oil should have been pre pumped up to the cylinder head.

Or yea, just dump some additive in it... wont hurt a 2.3 lima to thicken up the oil a bit.
 
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I've found Marvel Mystery Oil to help those sticky lifters.
 
You don't have sticky lifters, you have leaky lifters. The check valve is not sealing, or the lifter internal parts have a bit more clearance, and either or both will allow leakdown over time. It is normal. It won't hurt anything.
If you insist, you can do some of the above tricks to disable the injectors and/or perhaps place a switch on the relay power side or the power to the ignition module to disable spark, etc etc etc etc etc.
I would ignore it. I have a tap that comes and goes, depending on how long between running the engine, and which cylinder happens to have a valve open when I stop.
I would sooner have lifters that were a bit too loose internally, and tapped now and again, than lifters that were too tight, and held the valve off its seat... causing the valve to burn up and cause more problems.
I'd suggest leaving it alone, starting more frequently, or removing the offending lifter and replacing it with new. You might find that a new lifter has the same problem, you never know. You can remove them and apply external pressure to simulate a valve spring, and test how long they take to collapse, and how much pressure they withstand before collapse, but it's easier just to ignore, or remove clean and re-install, or replace with new.
The oil viscosity likely won't have much effect as the leakdown is so slow and over such a long period of time.
tom,
 
Coming from a 2.9 owner.....

I wouldnt worry about it.

Even the owners manual says lifter noise is normal after extended shutdowns.
 
My rebuilt 2.3 developed a lifter noise about 10k in... only for a second or two on cold startups. Heavier oil has helped a lot. I run 10w30 instead of 5w in the winter and will sometimes substitute one quart of 15w-40 with that oil change... in the summer I run 10w40 with two quarts of 15w40 or one 20w-50, whichever I have on hand.

Everything Tom said was spot on, great advise, and I would second the suggestion to more or less ignore it. I would only be worried if I had a lifter tap that didn't go away and/or was present after the engine warms up. 4.0's in particular seem prone to that, but I've "fixed" a couple of them by running a quart of diesel fuel in the oil for a half hour or so at idle right before an oil change. I suspect it breaks up carbon or varnish that causes them to stick.
 

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