I know you ford guys are gonna cringe...

[85_Ranger4x4]

Plus I call BS on the weight unless he was doing 10 mph TOPS just around the farm in which case it isn't that impressive unless you are impressed by people being too cheap to buy the right tool for the job.

I see half tons pulling full double tanks of anhydrous down the highway all the time, 10-15k apeice.

They only go about 45mph, and can't stop for crap since they are made to be pulled with tractors at 20mph tops and don't have brakes. Nothing more exciting than watching some idiot getting pushed thru a stopsign sliding all four tires on his pickup.

Farmers get away with all sorts of crap like that, the bale carts they pull with no brakes and bales stacked as high as their loader will allow... with nothing tied down of course. They can do their own inspections on their grain trucks and get special waivers every year so they can weigh so much more than is allowed for a normal person. If a commercial guy tried any of that he would probably about get shot for it.

Dad had a 305 in a '81 1500 it was a good engine, had decent power and milage. The '92 GMC 1500 packing a 350 he replaced it with was a night and day difference though. They are both good engines, but I wouldn't trade my 5.4 for either.

 

[BRUTUS_T_HOG]

I don't know, the 3 valve 6.8 Triton V10 with its 4.16" stroke makes for one heck of a towpig motor as far as gassers go. If I remember right, it makes 400+ ft-lbs from 1500-5000 RPM, peaking at close to 500 ft-lbs.

The GM gassers are also great motors, but they have a much larger bore and shorter stroke than the tritons. This makes them great in an application like the silverado SS or the pontiac GTO.

But for pulling large trailers, the long-stroke tritons win.

well i guess i wasn't clear... tritons put out good power, especially the V10, but they really suck to work on and the ****ing spark plugs blow out the threads in the rear cylinders.

lumber yard i used to work at had an 07 V10 and we had 4 and a half pallets of manor stone loaded up... if i remember right each pallet weights over 1000lbs.

we were going about 65mph up a 6% grade cruising like it was nothing.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

well i guess i wasn't clear... tritons put out good power, especially the V10, but they really suck to work on and the ****ing spark plugs blow out the threads in the rear cylinders.

lumber yard i used to work at had an 07 V10 and we had 4 and a half pallets of manor stone loaded up... if i remember right each pallet weights over 1000lbs.

we were going about 65mph up a 6% grade cruising like it was nothing.

The three valves don't spit plugs.

The two valves do if they were not tightened properly, they can do it any cylinder and not just the back ones. Not a really common thing to happen.

GM engines are notorious for intake gaskets leaking even installed properly.

Six of one half a dozen of another...

 

[bcost882]

yea any spark plug that spits out isn't tightend right haha i had the igniter spit out on my jet's engine for about 10-15hrs, of course not tightend. the only thing with v-10s was i heard they got 11mpg loaded or not

 

[Schwinnstingray1964]

Is anyone listening to me?

Is this thing on?

 

[Will]

Is anyone listening to me?

Is this thing on?

Is what thing on? I didn't see you propose anything.

 

[BRUTUS_T_HOG]

he was implying that anybody that replies to this should not be too biased, bash brands, or cause big drawn out arguements about whats better

 

[Jason]

The three valves don't spit plugs.

The two valves do if they were not tightened properly, they can do it any cylinder and not just the back ones. Not a really common thing to happen.

GM engines are notorious for intake gaskets leaking even installed properly.

Six of one half a dozen of another...

Even my step-dads 4.2 spit plugs. It's not just a V-8 thing anymore. lol

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Even my step-dads 4.2 spit plugs. It's not just a V-8 thing anymore. lol

So did my brothers Honda CT-70 trail bike when were were kids.... anything can do it to a certain point.

The mod motors are more unforgiving because they have 2 or 3 threads to hold the plug in an aluminum head. Too tight and you strip them out, too loose and they will work the threads until the plug pops out.

 

[Sevensecondsuv]

well i guess i wasn't clear... tritons put out good power, especially the V10, but they really suck to work on and the ****ing spark plugs blow out the threads in the rear cylinders.

Yeah they had an issue with the plugs. Some head types were worse than others. From my research, in order of best to worst, it was 3V > 2V PI > 2V NPI. Every engine/vehicle family out there has at least one annoying design issue though. Pick your poison I guess.

These engines don't suck to work on in and of themselves. It's the body shape of the trucks they were installed in that makes them a pain to work on. Try working on a 4.6 in a crown vic. It's as easy as anything. Put that same motor in an F-150 and all of a sudden its half burried beneath the cowl and you can't get to anything. The super duty bodies are a little better for engine work than the F-150 bodies, but the 80-96 body style was far superior to either.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Yeah they had an issue with the plugs. Some head types were worse than others. From my research, in order of best to worst, it was 3V > 2V PI > 2V NPI. Every engine/vehicle family out there has at least one annoying design issue though. Pick your poison I guess.

These engines don't suck to work on in and of themselves. It's the body shape of the trucks they were installed in that makes them a pain to work on. Try working on a 4.6 in a crown vic. It's as easy as anything. Put that same motor in an F-150 and all of a sudden its half burried beneath the cowl and you can't get to anything. The super duty bodies are a little better for engine work than the F-150 bodies, but the 80-96 body style was far superior to either.

For some reason 4.6's are really rare to ever have a problem with it. V-10's are the most common, with the 5.4 somehwere in the middle.

Late '03 and later 2v engines had more threads and should theoroetically be better than the earlier ones up until they were phased out with 3 valve engines which are very unlikely to spit out a plug.

 

[ford1386]

I have a 01 f250 V10 with 82,000 miles on it and did some research on the spark plug spitting thing and decided to change mine out before it was too late. I backed all ten of them out anti-seized the new ones and had them all changed out in 2.5 hrs. And this past weekend a buddy of mine came over with his 2000 V10 with 130,000 miles on it and I changed all ten of his plugs out in less than 1.5 hr so i guess you get better at doing things the second time, but knock on wood i've had no trouble with this. And a buddy of mine had an '02 6.0 silverado extended cab short bed in his truck and my v10 would leave him in the dust, after i had just won first place at the truck pulls towing 30,000 lbs in the gasoline class. But compared to the silverado my v10 is about 1,000 lbs. heavier, my truck with me sitting in it weighs in at about 6,900 lbs. Does ford put more steel on their trucks idk.

 

[98RedRanger]

All I have to say about the V10 is my Dad has a 2001 F-250 that he ordered from the factory and all he has done is change the oil every 3,000 miles and put a set of spark plugs in at 100k and he's due for another set 109k later. Never given him a problem and has driven up and down the east coast pulling a 28 foot travel trailer and running from hurricanes without a single problem. Best he's ever gotten was 14mpg going to Georgia doing a steady speed of 80, worst he's ever gotten was 6mpg towing our old 20 foot offshore boat down to the keys that had a tee top (went through a full tank of gas (38 gallons). It's been an insanely reliable truck and it's probably going to be for another 300k atleast.

 

[chvlfrk]

>>>>

But my tow rig is a 1995 Chevy 1500.

And its a damn good one too.

It tows my heavy ass camper up north every year.

It towed my brothers girlfriend's sebring out of a ditch last night.

It tows scrap vehicles around the yard.

and still will rock on the freeway.

I may be a fan of ford. But chevy gets my vote on towing.

Oh and i just got some 33' Mud tires for it. XD

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Nothin the matter with it...........my tow-pig is a 92 C2500 w/5.7L /4L80E trans / 4.10 gears, pulls ok, but I have had thoughts of stuffin a BB in it, as the 5.7L in the late 80s and 90s were underpowered IMO.........

Ranger-Forums Meet in Knoxville, TN last year:

 

[Will]

Least you have 4.10s. The '88 5.7 I had was a 3.43-equipped pig. Towing my Ranger at 60-65 was good for 8mpg with lots of visits to 3rd gear.