How much longer will Chrysler last?

[bmacsys]

What compelling products do they offer? Do they have anything in the pipeline even? Will it soon be the "Big Two"?

 

[zukirider21]

theyre on their way out, that for sure. but its not a problem for me, ive always hated that cheap ass slowpar crap. good to see it going.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I am rather fond of the Challenger and the Jeep Wrangler... after that not much really appeals to me until you go back in time aways.

 

[martin]

I thought Fiat was in with chrysler now. they'll probably rebadge the 4 x 4 panda, oh yea.

 

[iceracer60]

i give them bout 6-8 months. even under fiat they only offer complete junk in their showrooms. we got a few 2005 and up dakotas and rams at work and its a constant battle for me to keep the ball joints, tierod ends and wheel bearings replaced. the only good thing about them is that the parts you put in isnt in long enough to rust before their poorly designed front suspensions eat them apart

 

[mjonesjr]

Chrysler has a lot of good products in production right now. The Jeep brand is doing good for them and from what I have read from the Jeep boards I am on, the new models coming out will be awesome.

Not to mention that Dodge has a huge following because of the Cummins engine in their big trucks. The 3/4 and 1 ton trucks is what keeps their truck market alive. Dodge could be even more competitive in the truck market if they would come market the Sterling brand trucks as their heavy duty trucks to compete with the Ford F-450 and F-550.

 

[iceracer60]

mjones- if i remember right, sterling brand was bought by ford a number of years ago and just recently announced that they will no longer be producing trucks

 

[mjonesjr]

mjones- if i remember right, sterling brand was bought by ford a number of years ago and just recently announced that they will no longer be producing trucks

You are correct, but they will be making larger trucks still.

Dodge is making 4500 and 5500 trucks via the Dodge branding. The problem is they don't market them. I really like the fact that the 2500, 3500, 4500 and 5500 trucks have the 6.7L Cummins. The only problem is the 4500 and 5500 6.7 Cummins engines have 40 less HP and TQ than the 2500 and 3500 6.7 Cummins.


Numbers:

2010 Dodge 6.7 Cummins: (Inline 6 Cylinder)
HP: 350 (310 on 4500 and 5500)
TQ: 650 (610 on 4500 and 5500)
Transmissions:
- 6 speed manual
- 5 speed auto
- 6 speed auto

http://www.dodge.com/en/2010/ram_2500_3500/capability/powertrain




2010 Ford 6.4L Powerstroke: (V-series 8 Cylinder)
HP: 350 (325 on F-450 and F-550)
TQ: 650 (600 on F-450 and F-550)
Transmissions:
- 6 speed manual (Remember, in 2011 the manual transmission is gone from the Ford Super Duty)
- 5 speed auto

http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/engine/




2010 Chevy Duramax: (V-series 8 Cylinder)
HP: 365
TQ: 660
Transmissions:
- 6 speed auto (built by Allison Transmission)







Chevy should look more into the 1.5 and 2 ton class trucks. They don't even offer them.

 

[master hec0]

mjones- if i remember right, sterling brand was bought by ford a number of years ago and just recently announced that they will no longer be producing trucks

actually it used to be fords heavy duty division before ford sold it to Diamler in 1997

 

[Will]

Their pickups are fine. The Cummins diesel is the best engine in a light-duty truck. I like their cars now. I'd love to own a new Charger with the Hemi thing. Their Caravan is better than everyone who doesn't own it thinks. They have a lot of good stuff.

Do they make it? I don't know. But if they don't, it won't be American cars that fill the void. It's better to hope they make it. There is an engine plant in Walesboro, Indiana that is going to close if Dodge goes under. The trucks might be screwed together in Mexico, but those engines are built right here in the middle of the USA.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

You are correct, but they will be making larger trucks still.

Dodge is making 4500 and 5500 trucks via the Dodge branding. The problem is they don't market them. I really like the fact that the 2500, 3500, 4500 and 5500 trucks have the 6.7L Cummins. The only problem is the 4500 and 5500 6.7 Cummins engines have 40 less HP and TQ than the 2500 and 3500 6.7 Cummins.


Numbers:

2010 Dodge 6.7 Cummins: (Inline 6 Cylinder)
HP: 350 (310 on 4500 and 5500)
TQ: 650 (610 on 4500 and 5500)
Transmissions:
- 6 speed manual
- 5 speed auto
- 6 speed auto

http://www.dodge.com/en/2010/ram_2500_3500/capability/powertrain




2010 Ford 6.4L Powerstroke: (V-series 8 Cylinder)
HP: 350 (325 on F-450 and F-550)
TQ: 650 (600 on F-450 and F-550)
Transmissions:
- 6 speed manual (Remember, in 2011 the manual transmission is gone from the Ford Super Duty)
- 5 speed auto

http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/engine/




2010 Chevy Duramax: (V-series 8 Cylinder)
HP: 365
TQ: 660
Transmissions:
- 6 speed auto (built by Allison Transmission)







Chevy should look more into the 1.5 and 2 ton class trucks. They don't even offer them.

You are right, I have never seen a Dodge commercial or anything for anything over 1 ton... but then I have never seen one for a F-450+ either and there are quite a few of them floating around.

If Dodge lost Cummins I don't think they could justify making the Ram trucks... most people that I talk to buy them just for that particular engine. And I kind of wonder how good that engine would have been if JI Case hadn't held their hand when they designed it back in the early 80's (they made VERY good diesels on their own)

And Fords automatic will be a 6 speed for 2011MY, I don't know if they have released the #'S yet but they are getting a different in house 6.7L V-8 as well. They are dropping the stick because the vast majority of trucks sold didn't have one and those that did sat on the lots too long.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Their pickups are fine. The Cummins diesel is the best engine in a light-duty truck. I like their cars now. I'd love to own a new Charger with the Hemi thing. Their Caravan is better than everyone who doesn't own it thinks. They have a lot of good stuff.

Do they make it? I don't know. But if they don't, it won't be American cars that fill the void. It's better to hope they make it. There is an engine plant in Walesboro, Indiana that is going to close if Dodge goes under. The trucks might be screwed together in Mexico, but those engines are built right here in the middle of the USA.

It won't be american cars that fill the void if they don't go away either, Fiat has big plans to bring over their European cars to fill up the car line.

 

[adsm08]

well they have that electric Wrangler thats gonna really be a gas generator hooked into the electric drive system.

And that electric sports car thats mostly made from Elise parts.

 

[Will]

I have seen a 4500/5500 Dodge Ram at the Louisville Truck show. Same sheetmetal as the 3500, but a lot more truck under it. Same motor.

 

[C_Root]

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