Gun Control statement

[Surrey]

you claim its the innocent people who are hurt by guns? Around here, at least 90% of all gun violence is between gangs.

I bet it is a similar percentage in the us, its just so common it isn't even news worthy there anymore.

And you are entirely right, those illegal guns from the us are largely originally obtained legally. And it remains easier to get an illegal american gun than a legal canadian one in most cases, especially gangsters with criminal records and shit.

 

[Surrey]

You missed the y in hairy

 

[4.0B2]

It's a lot easier to get illegal guns in America than legal ones I'm sure...

And yeah there's gang violence. But thats gonna happen even if we get rid of guns. Did you not read that link? Criminals will break laws either way.

 

[adsm08]

You missed the y in hairy

Yeah, I fixed that too. There is a reason I re-read things and that so many of my posts are edited. I'm always fixing my own typos.

 

[TheTopher]

I've mentioned this before, and I suppose I shall mention it again.

As a law abiding citizen, I am not allowed to own a gun in my state due to a fist fight I got into when I was 15, that I didn't even start.

Could I get a hold of a gun? Absolutely. Will I? No. Because I am a law abiding citizen, and will not purchase one unless I can do so legally.

So presumably any other person could get a hold of a firearm just as easily, if not easier, if they hang out with other criminals to begin with. Since criminals, by definition, are people who break laws, there is nothing to stop them from physically possessing a firearm which they could use to harm me.

It really bothers me that defending myself as a minor has now left me helpless to defend myself against criminals.

 

[adsm08]

Wow Toph, that is a crock of shiite.

Guess I am now one more step towards being totally land locked into PA.

 

[TheTopher]

Wow Toph, that is a crock of shiite.

Guess I am now one more step towards being totally land locked into PA.

Actually under Pennsylvania law I would have to wait until I'm 30, rather than 25 as I do in Delaware.


The law is basically if you commit a crime as a minor, but older than 14, that would have been a felony, had you not been a minor, you can't own a firearm until you're 25 in Delaware, or 30 in Pennsylvania.

So if you had just turned 14 a week earlier, and your brother picks a fight with you and loses, then calls the cops...


Isn't our legal system great?

 

[LearjetMinako]

I feel like I just . I just posted the statement video because it was going to be removed in a few days and I felt like I needed to at least share it to others. I too have a concealed weapons permit, but I don't really use it. Mainly because my route of travel takes me through government grounds, which forbids weapons.

 

[Ranger Dave (B25)]

We have pretty strict gun control up here in Canada, and our gun murder rate per capita is about 10% of the US.

Im quite happy with our gun control laws for the most part (long gun registry is a bit of a joke, hunters use hunting rifles, not gangsters...)

Sure it takes 1 second to switch out a clip, but if you only have 1 bullet in it, its not like you can reasonably carry 30 clips on you.

Has nobody actually read the 2nd amendment? It clearly states you can bear arms to form a militia for the defense of the nation. Now you have an army to do that for you.

This guy was a crazy bastard that drove a truck into the side of a building, and started unloading... If you have the right to bear arms, doesn't he have that same right? Nobody having guns seems better than everyone having guns, 'cause there are way too many people who shouldn't have them.

Don't take this the wrong way:

Nobody really cares what Canadians think about the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Your views are irrelevant, at best, and neither required, requested or desired.

Sorry, but that's the way it is.

 

[hoosier1104]

Gun control is hitting center mass. I did not serve this country for some snot nosed politician to tell me I cannot protect my family/property. I shot to kill not to miss and have to fire again. That makes no friggin sense. They can pry my S&W out of my cold dead hands before I will EVER give it up. If you do not like my point of view, TS! It will never change.

Justin Carlton, SSgt, USAF, Honorable Discharge

 

[4.0B2]

Gun control is hitting center mass. I did not serve this country for some snot nosed politician to tell me I cannot protect my family/property. I shot to kill not to miss and have to fire again. That makes no friggin sense. They can pry my S&W out of my cold dead hands before I will EVER give it up. If you do not like my point of view, TS! It will never change.

Justin Carlton, SSgt, USAF, Honorable Discharge

Thank you for your service.
and i agree.. if we don't have guns, what are we gonna do when we need to overthrow our already OVERPOWERED government. think about how some of the original politicans would feel about how our government is ran now. but thats a different topic to...

regardless, idk what will happen with our gun control- but i do know that taking all the guns away is not gonna help.

surray- from the statement earlier about gang on gang crime for canada- so gun crimes from gang to gang bothers you and you care, but you don't care when a heroine user dies from OD'ing? you realize that's basically the same thing right... both kinda brought it on them self

 

[pjtoledo]

I normally don't post this kind of stuff on the TRS. But this one, I just had to.

Link:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4069761537893819675#

thank you

 

[mn_smokeater]

today i took part in a shooting for both enjoyment and to train to better defend yourself and i met a guy who came here from Australia because they took the guns away and the country he once called home he can hardly recognize it now.

he loves it here and served in OIF too.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

We have pretty strict gun control up here in Canada, and our gun murder rate per capita is about 10% of the US.

Im quite happy with our gun control laws for the most part (long gun registry is a bit of a joke, hunters use hunting rifles, not gangsters...)

Sure it takes 1 second to switch out a clip, but if you only have 1 bullet in it, its not like you can reasonably carry 30 clips on you.

Has nobody actually read the 2nd amendment? It clearly states you can bear arms to form a militia for the defense of the nation. Now you have an army to do that for you.

This guy was a crazy bastard that drove a truck into the side of a building, and started unloading... If you have the right to bear arms, doesn't he have that same right? Nobody having guns seems better than everyone having guns, 'cause there are way too many people who shouldn't have them.

You are mis-reading the Second Amendment, like most people tend to do anymore.

"The text of the Second Amendment as passed by the Congress:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The text as ratified by the States:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Now they both read very similar, however BOTH versions include a comma between the statement about the militia and the statement about the PEOPLE, which indicates that they are two separate statements but they are linked in purpose - that there can be no law preventing the PEOPLE from owning arms and forming a MILITIA as needed to protect the STATE.

Of course, a lot of people are taught anymore that the comma was just used as an unwieldy pause to catch one's breath when speaking the amendment and not that they are two separate statements. Strange how those same people can't point out anywhere else in the Constitution and Bill of Rights where those hack framers f**ked things up.

Oh, and don't forget, this Nation already had a standing army when the Constitution was devised, so that theory about how the Militia was needed because we lacked an army doesn't hold water.

 

[JC 97]

Don't take this the wrong way:

Nobody really cares what Canadians think about the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Your views are irrelevant, at best, and neither required, requested or desired.

Sorry, but that's the way it is.

Well put,I could not agree with you more.I wanted to respond to surrey,but I would have come across as a jerk in my response.I am sure canadians don't care what we think of their laws, nor would I voice my opinion on the laws of canada.