ford b!tchslaps gm

[Ranger Sport Honduras]

Unfortunately, an Engine's longevity and reliability are typically inversely proportional to the engine's output power/size.

Large engines making relatively small power = longevity. Small engines making relatively big power = short-lived and typically unreliable.

But you seem to know more about this than we do...

then my 2.5 will last forvever!

im happy with my 150lbs/ft of tq tho

 

[LearjetMinako]

then my 2.5 will last forvever!

im happy with my 150lbs/ft of tq tho

So you are happy with that 150ft/lbs of torque. I gotta live with 135ft/lbs out of the 96 2.3L engine. But it will last just as long as yours.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

It is not much of somehing that it already has too much of to really mean much IMO.

Good grief, in a empty truck with the old tune drop the hammer at 40mph and the truck will very noticably lean as it accelerates its way to plaid.

Really, I am not sure what would cause it to run out of power that would still be street legal...

 

[Hopman]

I dont know, the only real diesel sound to me is old detriot 2 strokes... all else is just bland

I dunno. The DD Series 60 has a great sound. When I drove long-hail, I was behind the wheel of an '05 Freightliner with a 500 hp one back by a 10 speed Eaton. That thing would SCREAM like crazy going up hills.

x2! its just getting ridiculous these days...

Yeah. How long before you need a CDL to drive a 450? The way things are going, you're going to be able to tow 50,000 lbs with in a few years!

So you are happy with that 150ft/lbs of torque. I gotta live with 135ft/lbs out of the 96 2.3L engine. But it will last just as long as yours.

I think my '94 only has 125 lb/ft. It's not how much you have, it's how effectivly you USE it!

 

[Ranger Sport Honduras]

hey hopman post some pics of your truck. i want to see that 4wd 4 banger lol

 

[Hopman]

hey hopman post some pics of your truck. i want to see that 4wd 4 banger lol

Here's a link to my truck thread from December of last year. The truck hasn't changed much since then with the exception of a couple new stickers on the back glass.

http://therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67946

Enjoy!

 

[86 slo-vo]

i guess im stupid for being brand loyal but i wont touch a GM....sure they all have thier downfalls but to me

ford > dodge > gm

 

[Ranger Sport Honduras]

i guess im stupid for being brand loyal but i wont touch a GM....sure they all have thier downfalls but to me

ford > dodge > gm

i think the same way lol

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

i guess im stupid for being brand loyal but i wont touch a GM....sure they all have thier downfalls but to me

ford > dodge > gm

I would take a GM over a Dodge anyday...

Granted the GM 2 strokes I have been around were straightpiped and in tractors (an Oliver and a White) but aside from just "noise" there wasn't anything really special about them IMO... and it was the ear-bleeding kind of noise.

I like the sound of a good straight 6 with or without a turbo. Ford's 6.0 sounds pretty good too, especially the early ones that howl like a banshee...

 

[Ranger Sport Honduras]

maybe this way: Ford> mazda>nissan>toyota>dodge >gm

 

[Hopman]

I like the sound of a good straight 6 with or without a turbo.

I had a friend (who passed away about 2 1/2 months ago) who lovingly restored a '47 1/2 Chevy 1/2 ton. He kept the straight-6. Boy what a glorious sound that thing had! Especially coupled to that gearbox with the straight-cut gears in it!

It was mechanical poetry. Even better was the fact that it was painted bright red. It was enough to make anybody smile.

 

[zukirider21]

i guess im stupid for being brand loyal but i wont touch a GM....sure they all have thier downfalls but to me

ford > dodge > gm

im not really too brand loyal (that's right, i said it, i dont really mind gm), with the exception of mopar. not a chance in hell i'll ever waste my money on such a poorly built pos.

but above all its still good fun participating in the brand wars.

 

[zukirider21]

My shifting technique? Cars and pickups are all so over powered that you don't need a shifting technique. When you drive something big, you use it all. If your shifting technique involves keeping the engine around the torque peak you'll never get it out of first gear. Go ask a trucker if he would rather have his torque-peak 100rpm lower or another 100rpm on the top end. Chances are, he doesn't even know what his torque is. He probably knows he has 375hp and wishes he had 475hp. Until recently, they didn't even publish torque figures and some still may not. Go look at the certification tags on the engines.

We were talking about diesel pickups which, presumably, are meant to haul loads. Now you are talking about Fox body Mustangs. It only matters if the engine isn't matched to the drivetrain and doesn't have the right gear to actually see maximum horsepower. For a street car definately having a bigger, lower rpm engine is more useful and fun. On the strip, with each car set up for it's particular engine, they will reach the trap at the same time.

Horsepower isn't torque at a given speed. Torque isn't work. Work is force (torque) and distance. Horsepower is torque, distance and time. However you get there doesn't matter. The way you get the load to the top of the hill in as brief a time as possible, or to the end of the 1/4-mile, is with horsepower, period. The engine's characteristics, whatever they are, are dealt with via the transmission and axle gearing.

Hp is a 3-legged stool and torque is only one leg of it. My 200# granny standing on a 4' lever is good for 800ft#.

alright well touche. youre talking about HUGE CLASS 8 TRUCKS. superduty's arent class 8 semi's. a shit ton of people who own them are gonna be driving them unloaded or lightly loaded alot more than they will be with a huge max capacity trailer. and plain and simple, line up a job1 2011 sd (735tq) next to a job2 2011 sd (800tq) and its gonna outperform it by a noticeable margin. enough said.

 

[zukirider21]

Who cares? Who is buying this for a dd? How many of us can afford one? It is one really heavy pig rig. It is really a work truck. If I want a play/dd real truck I would spend that huge sum of money on the new Raptor due soon with 411 hp and get the crew cab. I can take that puppy anywhere I want to go!!!! RAPTORS FOR EVER, Bro!!!!!

alright well i love the raptor too, and i know the f150 is an amazing all-around platform, but trust me dude you'd be surprised how many people rely on a superduty as their one and only vehicle. its not the most practical in all cases, but ALOT of people dd a powerstroke.

 

[Frank The Tank]

All but the old 7.3 PS have proved time and time again to be garbage and the 7.3 was a slug to mod..... way to go Ford by ruining good engines with "FORD SPECS"

If they'd put a Cummins in a Ford with a 6spd manual, I'd be all over it.
But Dodge has a great drivetrain and no truck.
Ford has a great truck and scrap engines.........
Chevy has a suck suspension but the most median combination right now going, so they get my vote.
I love our D-max at work.

To me, factory numbers don't mean jack...... they're just numbers to sell trucks. Once you get it off the lot and into the garage.... that's where the power is made, you just need durability.
I think Ford has been putting out engines that were pushing their limitations on power from the factory to begin with......... we know what the cummins and the D-max can take extremely modded, lets see how the new PS holds up. It may surprise me, but I doubt it.



Frank