EV accidents

[85_Ranger4x4]

Where are you getting those numbers? Outside of the 150k/8 year warranty, I'm seeing references to Tesla's internal tracking showing a mean of 90% battery life at 200k miles (https://www.motortrend.com/features/how-long-does-a-tesla-battery-last/) and a JD Power reference to 10-20 years (https://www.motortrend.com/features/how-long-does-a-tesla-battery-last/).

Agreed regarding the structural component question - I'm not sure what the current outlook is on replacing the cells when they're installed that way. Doesn't @ZMan do a lot of repair work? I wonder if he's done any training on that situation.

Alternative Fuels Data Center: Electric Vehicle Benefits and Considerations

It's a catch 22, do you go by the OE statements brought to you by the same kind of clowns that tout sealed for life suspension components and axle/transmission fluids and 10k mile oil changes or the govt...

I find it interesting the people who know the most about EV's, are the ones who don't have one and claim they will never own one!!
Tesla is the only one doing structural packs at the moment and they just started this. so the majority of EV's on the road have a relatively easy to access battery pack.

I own 2 EV's and have more on order. I'm not getting rid of the Ranger's anytime soon. They serve their purpose.
If you drive a lot like I do, an EV is a no brainer money/time saver.


I've personally put 165,000 miles on a 2019 EV and it's only lost about 5% of range in 4 years.

For weight savings and packaging making the battery structural is actually pretty clever. Ag has been using powertrain for structural components for the better part of a century. I see more going to it than away from it as time goes on.

I do have to take training on them at work. New things are interesting whether I intend to own them or not.

 

[19Walt93]

Wtf you doing driving in a snow storm?

Don't you drive in a storm?

 

[Blmpkn]

Ron Jeremy is a convicted rapist.

Aw jeeze way to get real.

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Don't you drive in a storm?

Not if I can help it. I plan ahead to avoid those situations.

 

[Josh B]

My first truck was an electric. It was so much fun to drive it around in the dark with it's fender lights on. It was a shiny red new 1960 model.

 

[1990RangerinSK]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/experience-regina-ends-1.6809256

I had no idea it had become such a controversial place...

Regina itself isn't controversial. That slogan, on the other hand, touched off a firestorm.

 

[1990RangerinSK]

Wait...

Wait wait wait....

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This you??

Nope. That's not me. I don't look anything like that.

 

[1990RangerinSK]

My brother lives in Regina (just for you @PetroleumJunkie412 ); he has friends with one of the new Mach e's. (I won't call an SUV a Mustang)

They commute daily from Lumsden to Regina for work (~100km round trip). They had no issues making the trip in -30 C weather this past winter. Plugging the EV in overnight was no different from plugging in an ICE in the same conditions. During summer, they drive commute all week on single charge.

Colleague in Scotland with Nissan Leaf likes fact that car always has full battery when he leaves the house.

Friends have summer vacationed from Toronto to Calgary (4k km) and back with their EVs with no range issues (and cost of <$100). Let see how far our ICE gets on one Benjamin Franklin...

I know a few people who live up in Lumsden and commute to the city. I wonder if I know your brother.

 

[1990RangerinSK]

One of these days ima go to Regina.

Probably try drop by and see my best friend @1990RangerinSK while I'm there.

Good luck finding me there. Evil Laugh

 

[1990RangerinSK]

@1990RangerinSK hails from Moosomin - that's practically in Manitoba. Although you might already be able to see Regina from there.

I'm about fifteen miles from the Manitoba border. But, yes, close enough. As for being able to see Regina from here, no. Regina is a wee bit too far for that. Yes, if Regina was in a deep enough valley, and Moosomin was right on the edge of said valley, we *might be able to see it, but that's not the case.

 

[rubydist]

Whoever it was that quoted Tesla data that their average battery still holds 90% capacity at 200k miles, you might be interested in some land I have just off the coast of California...

We take in a lot of Tesla vehicles now that there is a semi-adequate supply of Mach-E vehicles, and the first thing we have to do is plug them in to see how high they will charge. The typical 5+ year old Tesla will not get over 80% charge. Now that is not all the fault of Tesla, it is also the fault of the stupid Tesla drivers who want each day to start with 100% battery, so they charge them each night even though they should only charge 1 or 2 times per week, thus damaging the battery. Contrast that with a ICE vehicle that has no downside to having its gas tank topped off each day.

And if you are inclined to say its just a matter of training the new-to-electric-vehicles drivers not to charge every day when not needed, I remind you of this interesting fact: 50 years ago the owners manual for a typical automobile gave instructions on how to adjust valve lash. Current owners manuals give instructions not to drink the liquid from the battery.

 

[RonD]

Don't you drive in a storm?

Never
You know who drives in storms, people who think they know how to drive in storms.........................
They can have the streets for a few hours and let their insurance companies sort it out
Me, I will be happy at home

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

And if you are inclined to say its just a matter of training the new-to-electric-vehicles drivers not to charge every day when not needed, I remind you of this interesting fact: 50 years ago the owners manual for a typical automobile gave instructions on how to adjust valve lash. Current owners manuals give instructions not to drink the liquid from the battery.

Which reminds me 40 years ago a first gen Ranger manual has both helpful tidbits in it.

 

[RonD]

We are indeed moving into being a Toolless Society

When you grab your OBD2 reader instead of your vacuum gauge for troubleshooting an engine, you are already there, lol

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

We are indeed moving into being a Toolless Society

When you grab your OBD2 reader instead of your vacuum gauge for troubleshooting an engine, you are already there, lol

A code reader is a tool that can actually fix very little on its own.