Ethanol free gas!!!!!!!!

[craveman85]

this website has a listing of a lot of ethanol free gas stations. pure-gas.org found a station owned by an old lady that refuses to switch to ethanol!!! yay me!! ill pay the extra 5 or 10 cents a gallon to get back my 3mpg i lost with ethanol. this with acetone should be a huge improvement.

 

[Captain Ledd]

Ethanol isn't really a bad fuel. It's just that vehicles are designed to run on Gasoline, not something else. If the engine was actually meant to run on E85 (or something like that) I bet it'd be great.

So yeah, it's silly to use fuel where the engine isn't optimized to run on it.

"new kerosene infused gasoline! Your engine will love it!" yeah.. probably not.

 

[low_five]

why do we hate the ethanol again? I missed the memo.

 

[MountainMike]

I don't know. All I know is that my 84 Olds could run E10 with out hiccups, like most modern engine. Which is a coincidence because IIRC once a gas station adds 10 or more percent ethanol they have to declare it.

 

[Captain Ledd]

I think he's complaining that he put E85 in his truck and it didn't run as good?

I actually think the stuff is a good idea, just on an engine meant to run on it.

Maybe I missed something else?

 

[Downey]

well thats no help to me there all in southern pa

 

[Daedalus]

well thats no help to me there all in southern pa

Ah, but I have hope for you young grasshopper. All Red Apple/Kwik Fill stations are 100% gas. http://www.kwikfill.com/dealerLocator/KwikFill_Locator.php


The chain is owned by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Refining_Company and they don't add ethanol. Yet...

Edit: nvm, misread. thought you were looking for it in south PA...

 

[Jason]

Ah, but I have hope for you young grasshopper. All Red Apple/Kwik Fill stations are 100% gas. http://www.kwikfill.com/dealerLocator/KwikFill_Locator.php


The chain is owned by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Refining_Company and they don't add ethanol. Yet...

Edit: nvm, misread. thought you were looking for it in south PA...

There are a few places in WNY too. I haul it out of United Refining in Warren, PA. However be warned, United is switching to ethanol fuel this year so the party will end. Straight gas isn't a stations choice as this old lady will soon learn. It's a mandate more or less that will be all over soon enough.

 

[TheTopher]

Go figure, my tiny little state doesn't even have a list on that site.


Dela...where?

 

[adsm08]

why do we hate the ethanol again? I missed the memo.

Highly corrosive, a gallon of straight ethanol has roughly 1/2 the energy of a gallon of gas and costs more to make and sell, and unless its made from pure sugar cane ethanol fuel is a net carbon producer, despite the fact that one of it's main marketed purposes is to reduce overall carbon dioxide emissions.

Even E85 vehicles running E85 get worse mileage than they would on regular gas, they just have the equipment to run smoother on it and the parts of their fuel system are made from materials that better resist the corrosive effects of the alcohol.

If anyone cares to question me on that I will go pull up the Ford flex fuel training manuals and copy/paste the info.

 

[adsm08]

well thats no help to me there all in southern pa

There is one station in Dillsburg that is ethanol free. It's right on 15, on the Northbound side, across from the golf course and next to the Legion. They are only open 8-5 though because it's owned by one guy who will only hire 1 other person to work the repair shop attached to it.

 

[baxtej44]

The whole reasoning behind ethanol enriched gas would have to be the lessened environmental degradation, I would have to guess.

 

[craveman85]

i did a search because i was running gas with 10 percent ethanol and lost 3mpg. also my motorcycle hates it. i had to rebuild the carbs this year because they became all dried up and shriveled even though i ran it in the winter and used it a lot last year. i also had a lot of carb problems in my 85 chrysler fifth avenue with gaskets. my ranger doesnt like to go up hills like it should if it were on a more volitile fuel. we also wouldnt be so dependant on foreign oil if we didnt send our domestic oil from alaska all the way to mexico. the japanese even have oil rigs on our soil but for some reason americans dont drill their own oil?

 

[01_ranger_4x4]

thanks for the link. ask anyone who rides snowmobiles and they will tell you why ethenol is a bad thing. if left in the tank for more than a couple weeks it can turn to a gel and will clog fuel filters, carbs and cause piston burndowns due to detonation. its nasty stuff.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

Yep, even my Flex-Fuel Ranger lost mileage when they started doing that "contains up to 10% ethanol" bs.

And I don't know what they did with winter gas this year but my F-150 went from 15 mpg to 10 mpg through the winter.

And all three of our lawn tractors are having carb problems.... I'm suspecting the gas was a cause...




Say, what would it cost to have your own oil well and a mini-refinery......