Anyone know WEIGHT difference 'tween M5OD and A4LD?

[fixizin]

Besides the MPG gains with manual vs. auto trans, I've seen specs on other not-so-large vehicles where the auto weighs OVER 100 lbs. MORE than the manual... WTH?

That kinda caught me by surprise... but then I don't really know much about auto trannies.

Anyway, can't find those weights for the Ranger, does anyone know them?

 

[MAKG]

There are A LOT more steel parts in an automatic transmission. They are heavy SOBs.

I couldn't lift a 4EAT by myself when I needed to (though that's a transaxle; those are even heavier because of the differential parts). I could lift my Toyota manual transaxle by myself when it was out.

If you ever have a blown one handy, disassembling one is rather educational. And it's a lot easier to haul it to the recycler that way as well.

But frankly, the weight isn't relevant. 100 lbs might matter for a drag race, where you win or lose by milliseconds, but for mileage, removing a few percent of the vehicle weight isn't going to be even slightly measurable. And I doubt the difference is THAT big.

 

[metalmacguyver]

MAKG, he just asked about the wieghts. Probably cause he is curious, not cause he is looking to drag his ranger or something.


IIRC, a M5OD weighs in at arounD 80lbs. I have tossed around an A4LD tranny before and I would estimate that it is in the 120-130lb range.

 

[engdept]

I agree with metalmacguyver on the weights. An A4LD weights about 75-100 pounds more than a M50D, but it is manageable to throw around if you have to; the hardest part is it is weird to hold.

 

[MAKG]

The 80 lb weight for an M5OD is entirely reasonable (having thrown one around).

100 lb more for an A4LD is not reasonable. I think you overestimate your strength. 180 lbs is certainly more than I can handle by myself, even if it comes with handles instead of greasy rounded bits. I've tried throwing around 150 lb SM465s. About all I can do is drag one on the ground.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I don't know how much they weigh but without the TC I didn't have a problem moving my '85 A4LD around. I briefly tried to move it with the TC in and found that they like to fall out and make a mess and smash fingers as they move around... so I left it it out after that.

I can move my 2wd C-4 and my 4x4 C-4/5 mutant around pretty easy too.

I have to agree, 120-130lbs dry for one is probably about right. The fluid will add a lot of weight to it, I think mine calls for about 10 qts.

 

[AllanD]

Don't quote me but if I recall correctly an A4LD weighs ~160lbs.

an M5OD-R1? 80lb is close, I think a "Bare" one is more like 86-88lbs
because the little spruce "pallet" I ship them on weighs less than 10lb
and shipping weight averages 98lbs.

 

[fixizin]

Thanks for all the feedback guys!

It was just curiosity, but now I'm thinking of the millions of bbls. of oil lost in MPG, plus the extra upfront E used in mining/smelting/casting/shipping an auto tranny. Ree-diculous. Yet even with all the renewed emphasis on MPG, Big Auto refuses to push manuals.