advantages of off roading electric vehicles

[Blmpkn]

Deadbolt SCX10 II. Snagged it on sale right before the III'S came out.

Sweet deal, I'm watching an auction for one right now.. as well as a wraith spawn roller.. well see what happens.

 

[19Walt93]

The battery in an electric F150 runs from the back of the front wheel opening to the front of the rear wheel opening and costs $38,000 plus installation today. If you can get by the $38k and the vehicle turning into a statue when the battery dies, what do you suppose would happen when it bounces over rough terrain and a rock pokes into the battery?

 

[oldgeek]

Not really, they are not necessarily built like a normal car. The battery of a Tesla is a structural part of the car that is glued into the unibody. Replacement runs $20k-$50k. Damaging that will greatly effect the future of a vehicle. Non Tesla vehicles vary in construction and serviceability of course, with a Ford so far individual battery modules are designed to be replaceable.

Scratch Your EV Battery? Seemingly Minor Damage Could Make Insurance Total Your Car According To Report

Electric vehicles promise big range and technology, but new study reveals that all of this comes at the cost of repairability after accidents

www.car-revs-daily.com

Tesla EVs, Even Mildly Damaged, Are Being Written Off by Insurance Companies

Insurers are increasingly concluding that a broken Tesla is too expensive to fix.

www.caranddriver.com

BUT with the liability being HUGE if a damaged battery cooks off later (like that Tesla last summer 3 weeks after its accident) and it burns down a bodyshop or somebody's home... junking a new/low mile car can look pretty cheap.

Tesla Model S catches fire three weeks after going to a junkyard

A Tesla Model S caught fire after sitting in a wrecking yard for three weeks. Fire fighters put out the blaze by placing the car in a water-filled pit.

www.autoblog.com

It is very interesting and with the prez's new crackdown on EV mileage it will probably only get more interesting as they try to cut weight/structure to get more miles out of them to keep that fleet average as high as the can.



My SCX10 RC crawler has been very enlightening for that, amazing torque. My son has a G-Wagon power wheels type car. My little SCX10 can push it fairly easily.

With the current Lithium batteries, I'm not sure why any of it has been passed for use with the safety concerns that surround it. New battery tech is being researched. Something better has got to come along at some point.

Purdue engineers create safer solid-state lithium-ion batteries from new composite materials

Purdue University engineers are making one of the most-used power sources safer and more efficient. High-voltage, solid-state lithium-ion batteries are the go-to power source for high-end…

www.purdue.edu

 

[stmitch]

The battery in an electric F150 runs from the back of the front wheel opening to the front of the rear wheel opening and costs $38,000 plus installation today. If you can get by the $38k and the vehicle turning into a statue when the battery dies, what do you suppose would happen when it bounces over rough terrain and a rock pokes into the battery?

The entire underside of the truck has heavy steel skidplates from front dif to rear dif and framerail to framerail:

If you take your $75k+ EV F150 onto courses where you're puncturing the skid plates and battery pack then you've royally messed up just like those idiots that were jumping their Raptors and destroying the frames a few years ago. Stupid people that make bad choices will have to suffer the consequences. It's not the OEM's job to design 100% idiot proof vehicles that cannot be damaged no matter what. They've done a great job of ensuring the Lightning can do anything that a stock ICE F150 can do. At least until the battery runs out of juice. If people need more specific capabilities, then they'll need to customize the vehicle or get something better suited to their needs.

 

[fastpakr]

The battery in an electric F150 runs from the back of the front wheel opening to the front of the rear wheel opening and costs $38,000 plus installation today. If you can get by the $38k and the vehicle turning into a statue when the battery dies, what do you suppose would happen when it bounces over rough terrain and a rock pokes into the battery?

The battery prices are closer to 28 (standard) and 35 (extended), and those have continued to fall precipitously since EV's were introduced. The factory warranty is 8 years/100k on the battery pack.

 

[oldgeek]

It's not the OEM's job to design 100% idiot proof vehicles

Designing something that is "idiot proof" only challenges the determination of idiots.

 

[James Morse]

you have a setup like this, put solar panels on top, then you just live there until it recharges

 

[RobbieD]

you have a setup like this, put solar panels on top, then you just live there until it recharges
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So they loaded up the truck and they moved to Beverly.

 

[19Walt93]

The battery prices are closer to 28 (standard) and 35 (extended), and those have continued to fall precipitously since EV's were introduced. The factory warranty is 8 years/100k on the battery pack.

I know the warranty terms, I processed claims from 85- 2017. In a state that mandates California emissions, the battery is covered for 10 years or 150,000. A battery with obvious damage is not warrantied at all. I got the battery price last month talking to one of my former techs who was working on an electric F150 at the time.

 

[RonD]

Well if you were in a rocky land and pierced a skid plate into the GAS TANK you would pretty much be in the same situation

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Well if you were in a rocky land and pierced a skid plate into the GAS TANK you would pretty much be in the same situation

I had a hole rust in my fuel tank.

It just leaked.

Now it's in the scrap pile behing my garage.

No Hollywood special effect required

And the raptors bending frames was a design flaw on Fords part. Regular F-150's with aftermarket bumpstops/jouncer cups ran alongside them without issue.

 

[19Walt93]

Well if you were in a rocky land and pierced a skid plate into the GAS TANK you would pretty much be in the same situation

The difference is the price of the battery vs a gas tank, but yes, you'd still be stranded.

 

[Eddo Rogue]

another negative: if you get in an accident, its totaled (is what i read about electric vehicles, not supposed to repair them because of hte battery maybe being messed up and could blow).


i used to work on golf carts for a local cart/battery shop here in town. certified for club car and ez-go. i think an electric vehicle could be great for in town use and as a run around vehicle but if you have to leave town, take the gas powered one.

I have a Taylor Dunn 3 wheeled material mover which I believe needs a new controller. I hear the relays clicking but it wont go.

Unfortunately it seems controllers for TD are discontinued, rare and expensive, and the trick is to retrofit an EZ go controllers. Sounds simple enough yet electrical is not my forte, so its sitting on the back burner of the projects list.

 

[Eddo Rogue]

you have a setup like this, put solar panels on top, then you just live there until it recharges
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I would love to live there. When an unannounced visitor shows up, just drive away.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Well if you were in a rocky land and pierced a skid plate into the GAS TANK you would pretty much be in the same situation

Not exactly. You can usually patch a tank enough to get you back.

You cant patch a battery