5.0 swap

[fastpakr]

Is the wiring in place for PATS? If so it may be as simple add plugging in the module and pairing the keys.

 

[booker1971]

No sure just read in an article that none on 4 cylinder


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[booker1971]

Read I would need the steering column out of a explore


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[stmitch]

The Explorer will probably have PATS, so even if your truck doesn't, you'll probably have to deal with it at some point. PATS involves the PCM, the factory ignition key, a module in the original steering column.
If you're missing any of those 3 components, you have 2 choices:
1- buy an aftermarket OBD2 tuning device with a custom PCM tune. The PATS stuff can be deleted from the PCM so that your Ranger steering column and key can be used.
2- if you swap the Explorer column into your truck, and just need a new key, a Ford dealer can get a new key and reprogram the vehicle, but you'd have to get the truck to the dealer somehow.

Either option is going to cost a few hundred $. If it were mine, I'd skip the hassle of swapping out columns or trying to keep PATS and just delete it.

 

[booker1971]

The Explorer will probably have PATS, so even if your truck doesn't, you'll probably have to deal with it at some point. PATS involves the PCM, the factory ignition key, a module in the original steering column.
If you're missing any of those 3 components, you have 2 choices:
1- buy an aftermarket OBD2 tuning device with a custom PCM tune. The PATS stuff can be deleted from the PCM so that your Ranger steering column and key can be used.
2- if you swap the Explorer column into your truck, and just need a new key, a Ford dealer can get a new key and reprogram the vehicle, but you'd have to get the truck to the dealer somehow.

Either option is going to cost a few hundred $. If it were mine, I'd skip the hassle of swapping out columns or trying to keep PATS and just delete it.

Thanks I had a shop lined up to pull the 2.5 and tranny replacing it with the 5.0 and matching tranny he has tool for pats however pulling the engine and tranny is a simple task I was gonna do it myself in the front yard and save 600 bucks to use else where. The pats and these dang cats that the salvage yard would not sell me from the explorer exhaust are gonna kill my projected budget lol.also wondering if the rear in my ranger behind the 2.5 is gonna hold the 5.0 lol


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[RangerFabWorks]

The 7.5 with an automatic will last for a bit unless you constantly hammer it. I had mine in my truck with a manual. And beat it pretty hard. Still going strong

 

[booker1971]

The 7.5 with an automatic will last for a bit unless you constantly hammer it. I had mine in my truck with a manual. And beat it pretty hard. Still going strong

Thanks for info
FYI pats does not exist on my 2.5 ranger so to fire this 5.0 I called the dealer for Orion’s that was a dead end so luckily I called a local Dino shop and the sold me a programmer the will eliminate pats from the pcm. It cost but simplest option at this point


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[Craig0320]

I wish I would have saw your issue with pats earlier. I am still going to post this for future help.
PATS
DO NOT MOUNT THEFT BOX AND KEY RING WITH KEY UNDER THE STEERING WHEEL. I found out the metal support plate with the four 8 mm bolts holding it in interferes with the signal the truck would not start. So I moved everything to above the driver side kick panel. Starts every time.
Yes the dreaded pats. My 98 ranger did not come with pats from the factory. So instead of spending 175.00 and getting it deleted out of my pcm I decided to wire it in. I found a wiring diagram online. I took the box, key ring around the lock cylinder, and the ignition key along with all the wiring I could get.
So this is how I did it. All of the wires on the pats module are the EXACT IDENTICAL COLOR AS THE RANGER. White/Yellow wire(Fuse# 25 7.5A hot at all times) and Red/Light green (Fuse# 19 25A hot in run or start)wired directly to the wires coming out of the fuse box. Ground wired to one of the gold bolts next to the fuse box that holds the dash in. Pink/Light blue and Tan/Orange(wires in obdII coonector for scanner) Wired above the driver side kick panel where they go to the main harness plug at the firewall.
White/Light green Black/Yellow Dark Green/white Gray/Orange all wire back to each other because they go to the key ring. The Dark Blue/Light green wire I wired into the same exact color wire on the 16 pin connector. Theft light works perfectly. After that i zip tied the key inside the ring and mounted everything above the driver kick panel.