Mileage recommendation for first oil change??

[JohnnyO]

I have a 2020 Ranger, I have changed it at 5k exactly with 5w-30 motorcraft synthetic blend and motorcraft filter. I am about to change it tonight for the 60k interval. No complaints so far.

Maybe apples and oranges but I got my old Sport Trac new, first oil change at 2500 then 5000, changed the oil every 5000 miles with synthetic and Motorcraft filter. Ran like new to 212,000 when it blew a head gasket but it never burned oil and never a problem with the timing chains.

My daughter's 2014 Fiesta calls for 10k mile OCI and I've run Pennzoil Platinum, my oil of choice, for 10k in it and got a UOA and it was perfectly fine. I wouldn't go that long in a turbo motor though.
Oil changes are cheap, new engines are expensive.

 

[RumPunch]

For sure. It amazes me how long some stuff allows I think my girlfriends new Tahoe nears 10-12k before the light comes on then she goes a month or two after generally . I know I have checked the indicator in the dash of the ranger several times after changing it at 5k and it showed 50% or something crazy. You have to wonder if manufacturers are hoping for failures at higher(100k-150k) and risking low hour failures in warranty but that's why they're stretching the mileage..

 

[sgtsandman]

They keep increasing the maintenance interval mileage to give the consumer the perception that what they have to offer costs less to maintain and is less bother to maintain.

Keep in mind, the average vehicle owner doesn’t do their own work and often doesn’t have a clue what goes into properly maintaining a vehicle. All they know is that they have to pay someone for BS items like oil and brakes with little or no preplanning going into it. Never mind preventative maintenance that helps spread the cost and minimizes huge repair expenses.

Then they get ticked off because they have to pay out hundreds of dollars to replace the brakes on a 5 year old vehicle because the slider pins seized and became one with the caliper and the rotors got scored because the pads wore down to bare metal making a nasty squeal.

 

[Blmpkn]

For the 90% customer or whatever number it is that ford engineers for... the 10k mile interval has been proven perfectly fine via Blackstone UOA results.

There's a retired Ford engineer on the new truck forum I'd love to convince to join up here actually.. He's an absolute wealth of information and we apparently have him to personally thank for the fx4 package..

That being said, my first was at 5k and I'll do 5k intervals forever.

 

[19Walt93]

The extended oil change intervals are an advertising gimmick trying to emphasize low ownership costs. BUT. If the engine wears prematurely- but after the powertrain warranty has expired- the car company is off the hook. If you change the oil "too often", you'll never knw. If you don't change it enough, you'll find out. We leased a new Bronco II(yes, I know it was a long time ago) to an engineer for a local company who did some calculations and determined he didn't need to change he oil at all during his 2 year lease. After 22 months we towed it in because he said it quit while he was driving. The engine was seized so the tech pulled it out and removed the drain plug to let the oil drain out while he was at lunch. He put the plug back in, mounted it on a stand, flipped it over and pulled the pan. It was still half full of nasty black cottage cheese. The engineer bought a reman engine, drove it 2 months and turned it in. Not changing the oil didn't end up saving him money after all.

 

[Ranger850]

apparently have him to personally thank for the fx4 package..

Tel him it wasn't meant for the Maverick. He overstepped. lol

 

[19Walt93]

I've seen posts on here by guys who use Pennzoil, I refuse to buy their products because Pennzoil owns Jiffy Lube and, if technicians got 1/10 the respect they deserve, the concept of Jiffy Lube would not occur to anyone. A vehicle is most people's second biggest investment, let's have an untrained chimp "service" it with a department store filter, what could go wrong? We made a lot of money fixing cars from Jiffy Lube. They give the whole auto repair industry a bad name.
One Explorer owner came in for a check engine light and told me the light had been on since the new engine was installed. His warranty history didn't show and engine so I called Ford ESP to see if they had an unclaimed engine repair in the system. Nope. I went out and opened the hood to find an engine with junkyard numbers on it. I called the customer and he said he'd had it "serviced" at Jiffy Lube and it started knocking and smoking on the highway in Mass. so he stopped at a Toyota dealer near the exit. Jiffy lube had put double the oil in it, casing a major vibration and a broken piston so they agreed to pay the dealer to fix it. The oil had poisoned the right (rear as it sat in the bay) cat and that turned the light on. The junkyard engine didn't come with a new cat so the dead one was reinstalled. Jiffy Lube paid us over $1300 for a new cat and the light went out. I explained to the customer that his 100,000 mile ESP would not cover any repairs to his junkyard engine.

 

[Blmpkn]

He's been retired for awhile lol I don't think that's his fault

The story with the fx4 package IIRC is corporate approached his team to create a fancy package for the Ranger that was mostly for show and not so much function.

They didnt like the all show and no go idea so they just like... didn't listen... and made it actually mean something. then showed it to ford who were like 'much wowe' and incorporated it.