Basic 2x4 framing question(s)

[Eddo Rogue]

I figure instead of doing a bunch of searching just ask you guys. What's the standard for basic house framing? I want to build a simple lean to off the garage. 10'x16'. I only need the 3 other walls. I would cut a doorway in the existing garage wall. the two walls would be 10' out off the garage, and the end wall would be 16' across. I'm thinking the lean to roof would go from 10' down to 8' across the 10' span. So I figure 3 walls, and the triangle side filler headers (whatever those are called) is all I would need for framing.

Can I use the existing garage wall to build off of? Could I use joist hangers of the existing wall for the roof runners?

How would I build the 16' foot wall? could I just build two 8'x8' frames and attach them? would I use a 4"x4" to connect the ends in the middle?

for the 10' walls, could I just use 10 footers for my top and bottoms and just go 16" on center for the studs?

If I wanted to frame in a little garage door, would it be the same as framing in a regular door or window?

Can I just raise/attach the walls and anchor em down to existing driveway, or would I need to pour a concrete footer?

I am metal guy by profession with very little carpentry experience, mostly finish work. I did successfully frame in a skylight.

Any input, suggestions, questions, insults is appreciated.

 

[dvdswan]

Are you going to have it inspected? Or just roll with it...

 

[dvdswan]

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[Eddo Rogue]

Are you going to have it inspected? Or just roll with it...


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Lol roll with it. Meh I figure it's a 10x16x 8'-10' tall lean to...I ain't building two story mcmansion here. I do have some framing savvy buddies I'll eventually convince with beer to come do an inspection. Everyone's so busy these days, sometimes I only see long lost friends over favors like this....especially when they need something welded lol.

 

[sgtsandman]

The framing of the roof is going to depend on the snow loads you get. We normally get only a few inches at a time with a once in a blue moon 24” dump.

So, roofs around here are typically 24” on center. Further north where they get a lot more snow, they go with steeper roofs and 16” on center.

As far as attachment for the roof to the existing building, that is going to be dependent on how the eves were done on the existing building.

 

[dvdswan]

The framing of the roof is going to depend on the snow loads you get. We normally get only a few inches at a time with a once in a blue moon 24” dump.

So, roofs around here are typically 24” on center. Further north where they get a lot more snow, they go with steeper roofs and 16” on center.

As far as attachment for the roof to the existing building, that is going to be dependent on how the eves were done on the existing building.

I don't think they have a record of snowfall in Burbank, CA. Maybe a dusting of another white substance but no record of snow...

 

[sgtsandman]

I don't think they have a record of snowfall in Burbank, CA. Maybe a dusting of another white substance but no record of snow...

With the way my phone interacts with the forum, I can see that. So, I have to shoot blind.

Anyway, that answers the spacing question.

 

[dvdswan]

So, I have to shoot blind.

I would never admit to that... Imagine what little swimmers would be heard quoting...

"I hope we don't hit the shower wall like the group before us."

"I hate these dark alleys, we never end up in a good spot."

"What's a man bun?"

 

[Shran]

Guess I'd check with your local building code/planning & zoning folks. If I lived two counties over I could build that out of live trees with a flattened out barrel roof... building codes vary a LOT.

I would also check to see if they view a "carport" differently than a "attached garage addition" or whatever you want to call it. Here, if I added a 10x16 addition to my garage, they would increase the square footage of my garage and increase my property taxes. But if I built a 10x16 carport that's not attached to anything, it's not taxed, BUT it can only be enclosed on two sides. 10x14 or anything under 140 sq/ft fully enclosed is a shed and non-taxed but you have to get a shed permit. It's a CF.

 

[Eddo Rogue]

The framing of the roof is going to depend on the snow loads you get. We normally get only a few inches at a time with a once in a blue moon 24” dump.

So, roofs around here are typically 24” on center. Further north where they get a lot more snow, they go with steeper roofs and 16” on center.

As far as attachment for the roof to the existing building, that is going to be dependent on how the eves were done on the existing building.

I've got absolutely zero snow load. I'm lucky to get more than an inch of rain. It's get windy...that's about it...and hell hot most of the year. The sun does the most destruction here.

 

[Eddo Rogue]

Guess I'd check with your local building code/planning & zoning folks. If I lived two counties over I could build that out of live trees with a flattened out barrel roof... building codes vary a LOT.

I would also check to see if they view a "carport" differently than a "attached garage addition" or whatever you want to call it. Here, if I added a 10x16 addition to my garage, they would increase the square footage of my garage and increase my property taxes. But if I built a 10x16 carport that's not attached to anything, it's not taxed, BUT it can only be enclosed on two sides. 10x14 or anything under 140 sq/ft fully enclosed is a shed and non-taxed but you have to get a shed permit. It's a CF.

Yea that's my rub...I would probably be the laughing stock of the neighborhood if I got the city involved. By the book folks get eaten alive out here, as the fees the local governments charge for things is borderline corrupt. Or fully. My neighbor build a new bridge, cost him $17k in permits. My other neighbors have huge structures the city has no clue about.
Funny thing is the fees aren't even the biggest deal. If you walk in to country registrar's office for a simple permit, say to paint your bathroom. It would not only cost you a huge wad of cash, but also waiting in a line of idiots for about 10-63 hours. Then driving through 2 hours of traffic to get through downtown and 15 miles out.

 

[Shran]

You need a permit to paint your bathroom? Seriously?

Just speaking from experience I got a fine for adding a 10x12 addition to my shed. I also had to move the shed to comply with property line set backs. They could tell all this by looking at satellite images that are accurate to an inch or two. It was a huge PITA and cost me $250 plus a bunch of time... if South Dakota has that technology, CA is even worse, I am sure.

 

[Eddo Rogue]

Yes. It's CA. The nickel and dime capital. The small independent cities around here are like that. You couldn't get away with a Rubbermaid shed in Glendale or Santa monica. But I am in a weird little forgotten agricultural zoned cut between cities, under jurisdiction of LA city, but on the outskirts of it...they are too busy dealing with the ghettos that surround me. You don't want to be the kid asking if there be a pop quiz. Because the answer will be yes only because you asked. And then the other kids will kick your ass.

 

[Eddo Rogue]

attaching lean to to house - Google Search

My search was not as good....I need to learn to use to twice lol

 

[Eddo Rogue]

You need a permit to paint your bathroom? Seriously?

Just speaking from experience I got a fine for adding a 10x12 addition to my shed. I also had to move the shed to comply with property line set backs. They could tell all this by looking at satellite images that are accurate to an inch or two. It was a huge PITA and cost me $250 plus a bunch of time... if South Dakota has that technology, CA is even worse, I am sure.

Yes, and yea this would be something I tear down if the city notices. It wouldn't be worth the fees,fines,permits,time etc....A regular joe schmoe aint the same as a big time real estate developer around here. My buddy around the corner built a 20'x 40' steel building metal shop on a raised foundation, so its over 20' tall. its behind a huge house and the roof is painted backyard lawn green. Nobody noticed it. I think I will be fine with my little hidden shanty lean to extension.