Can i use these?

[rusty ol ranger]

Some of you know that my B2s fuel system is kinda butchered.

Anyways....as of now my canister is gone and replaced by a regular fuel filter.

Ive heard the factory canister is actually more so the high pressure fuel pump doesnt get ahead of the low pressure in tank during high fuel demand situations.

I found these at an auction today...got them in a box full of other random shit for 10 bucks...

I know they are for fuel oil (didnt untill i bought them)...but seeing as how my fuel line is already rigged it wouldnt be hard to get some barbed fittings that screw into this and use it as a canister.

My return line already goes directly back to the tank. Im thinking about using this (if i can) then putting the fuel filter infront of this...unless i can find a filter for these.

Any input?

 

[franklin2]

The original fuel reservoir was to keep a steady supply of fuel to the high pressure fuel pump. The conditions in the main fuel tank can get wild if the fuel level is low and you are going around a lot of turns. So while the low pressure fuel pump is struggling to pick up fuel in the main tank, the reservoir is supposed to stay full. That is why the return from the engine is not plumbed to the main tank first, it is plumbed to the fuel reservoir.

A more suitable replacement for the Ford fuel reservoir is one of these. It's called a "fuel swirl pot".

Amazon.com

 

[bobbywalter]

i would throw all of that shit away and just put a mustang pump in the tank with a normal high pressure filter. gas does not play well with certain filters. i run alot of w85, and before i switched to a caterpillar system i ran all sorts of oil filters even fl1.

they work, but didnt like the gas and would swell a bit.

 

[bobbywalter]

i still run a reg oil filter as the prefilter.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

i would throw all of that shit away and just put a mustang pump in the tank with a normal high pressure filter. gas does not play well with certain filters. i run alot of w85, and before i switched to a caterpillar system i ran all sorts of oil filters even fl1.

they work, but didnt like the gas and would swell a bit.

Does the mustang pump slide in the bronco tank without modificaton?

What years mustang would i need?

 

[SenorNoob]

I'm guessing he means one of the in tank "universal" type pumps. Hang it on your existing sender. I've considered doing it myself to simplify the system, but wondered how it would handle long steep climbs with a low fuel level and a flat bottom tank. My understanding though some of the later trucks came that way from the factory so...

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

I owned an 85 b2 that the previous owner installed a mustang pump. Iirc there had been some cutting and filing of the tank opening to get the mustang pump to sit properly. There is a thread about that b2 somewhere. In the thread there is pics of where I cut the floor out. Maybe pics of the installed pump.
It was a rust bucket with a 4.0l installed when I got it.

 

[franklin2]

I'm guessing he means one of the in tank "universal" type pumps. Hang it on your existing sender. I've considered doing it myself to simplify the system, but wondered how it would handle long steep climbs with a low fuel level and a flat bottom tank. My understanding though some of the later trucks came that way from the factory so...

i know some of the little bit later rangers and BII did have a single high pressure pump in the tank, but no one has been able to explain to me how they are able to pick up fuel without starvation problems. I haven't held one in my hand, but I suspect they may have one of those larger flat pickup socks on them. It would act like a sponge and absorb and store some fuel for the pump.

I had a pontiac bonneville that used something like that, because it fell off and you could not run that car with less than 1/4 of a tank, it would start bucking and jerking. I dropped the tank and that is when I discovered that flat looking sock had come off the pickup tube. I am assuming it worked much like those Holley Hydra Mats. In fact, you could probably run one of those, but they want $500 for it. I think you could try one of the little bit later sending units with the high pressure pump on it.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Im gonna try a few different things...that way ill see what works and what dont and i can pass that info along here for guys who have issues with their factory cans and cant get replacements.

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

I've used an aftermarket low pressure pump mounted as close to the tank as I can feeding a frame rail high pressure pump. I put a large fuel filter in between. Did that for my race truck 4.0l and on my RV with fi 460. Never noticed any starvation symptoms. Iirc the same high pressure pump is spec for both motors.

 

[901wd#2]

My 89 ranger doesn’t have a working fuel gauge, at first I would know to get fuel because accelerating from a stop would make it starve & sputter.

 

[franklin2]

I've used an aftermarket low pressure pump mounted as close to the tank as I can feeding a frame rail high pressure pump. I put a large fuel filter in between. Did that for my race truck 4.0l and on my RV with fi 460. Never noticed any starvation symptoms. Iirc the same high pressure pump is spec for both motors.

If you keep plenty of fuel in the tank, you probably never would have a problem.

While I was searching for the Holley Hydra mat, I found out they had different styles, and indeed, some of them look just like that flat sock looking thing that fell of the Pontiac.

 

[bobbywalter]

Does the mustang pump slide in the bronco tank without modificaton?

What years mustang would i need?

you have to pull the carrier and may need to fit a longer section of hose and fresh clamps.

 

[bobbywalter]

I owned an 85 b2 that the previous owner installed a mustang pump. Iirc there had been some cutting and filing of the tank opening to get the mustang pump to sit properly. There is a thread about that b2 somewhere. In the thread there is pics of where I cut the floor out. Maybe pics of the installed pump.
It was a rust bucket with a 4.0l installed when I got it.

it fits. just run the mustang sock with it.

 

[bobbywalter]

the other thing is, you dont need the low pressure fuel pump at all once primed. totally remove it from the system.

you can pull it right out and run a hose with a filter or the sock on the end.

issue being prime loss of course. it happens and chugs here or there when low on fuel but that frame pump will fork fine on its own.