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PATS, Sticky thread?


Brain75

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We get a fair number of PATS questions, and in searching I found this:

Up till now I only thought of PATS flavors as 1 and 2, not A/B/C/D/E/F/G, and didn't know the diagnostics of "if it runs for more than 1 second then quits it is not PATS".

Hate to just borrow someone else's content, but websites disappear so quickly it will be gone tomorrow. I think what he has to say should be stickied here or *gasp* made into a tech article... Not asking you to write it Jim :)
If anyone else wants to throw additional PATS diagnostic / info / fix stuff here in this thread I might even condense it into a nice clean single post thread for an admin to sticky.

If this info exists already I didn't didn't find it in the tech library or a search - please link it here and I'll review it.

The "key article" and some one post responses in various thread was the most info I found with search:

Programming PATS using forscan:
 
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We get a fair number of PATS questions, and in searching I found this:

Up till now I only thought of PATS flavors as 1 and 2, not A/B/C/D/E/F/G, and didn't know the diagnostics of "if it runs for more than 1 second then quits it is not PATS".

Hate to just borrow someone else's content, but websites disappear so quickly it will be gone tomorrow. I think what he has to say should be stickied here or *gasp* made into a tech article... Not asking you to write it Jim :)
If anyone else wants to throw additional PATS diagnostic / info / fix stuff here in this thread I might even condense it into a nice clean single post thread for an admin to sticky.

If this info exists already I didn't didn't find it in the tech library or a search - please link it here and I'll review it.

The "key article" and some one post responses in various thread was the most info I found with search:

Programming PATS using forscan:

I used info from your first link along with some other info and made it a tech page, updated the 2nd link a little, and then posted them here in a FAQ's sticky.
 
First, Thank you for taking it on yourself instead of letting me flounder around for a week or two to get it together - you da man!
hey @Jim Oaks ... sorry to bug you again, but I found a TSB that is the first I have seen that definitely specifies each of a few year rangers versus what flavor - probably something to add somewhere for easy reference:
TSB - https://stangnet.com/images/stories/docs/sn95_TSBs/01-06-02.pdf

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a more official source for that TSB
 
I remember reading a post by @RonD that there was one year where pats wasn't active because of some licensing issue.
RonD isn't around anymore... A great loss.
 
2005... don't know that it was so much a licensing issue as the switch from PATS 1 to PATS 2 happened around there and they skipped the ranger that first year of PATS 2... I also saw that everything newer than 08 is supposedly system G - so the last 2 years missing (2010,2011) are is almost certainly system G but not going to say that with any authority.

edit: I just noticed the 2009 document details the 2010 model year - so the 09 document must be from the end of year when the '10 model year was already in production... I figured it didn't cover anything newer than 09 based on the fact it is an 09 doc.
 
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I started making a cross reference sheet cause even with all the data it seems about impossible to keep it straight, One thing that I saw repeatedly was people talking about keeping the computer and GEM a mated pair in some years, and the instrument cluster and computer a mated pair in others - can anyone elborate and explain which type (A/B/C/D/E/F/G) needed the GEM or am I just off in lala land?

The cross reference so far:

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So it’s not the GEM, but the B systems you need to either keep the PCM, PATS module, keys and ignition cylinder all together or be able to program PATS. I think when it got integrated into the cluster (06-11?), the separate PATS module went away so it would be PCM, cluster, ignition and keys.

I got all the parts that were matched out of a donor when I did my 5.0 swap, but all I changed was the PCM in my 00 Ranger (00 Explorer donor). I hooked up my laptop with an extended license on Forscan to it and it popped up asking if I changed something and what. I picked PCM and it did its magic. All my Ranger keys carried right over.
 
I didn't think it was that easy with Forscan. That changes the equation on 5.0 swapping.
 
I didn't think it was that easy with Forscan. That changes the equation on 5.0 swapping.
I honestly didn’t expect it to be that easy either, but Forscan did all the work for me, I thought I was going to be reprogramming keys and stuff but nope. Stupid simple. At least for a 2000 Ranger and 2000 Explorer
 

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