Fuel line...what are my options?

[rusty ol ranger]

thats the dorman fuel line repair tool.

Ill look into that.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

1990-96 Ford Truck Long Bed Fuel Line, Filter to Motor - Broncograveyard.com

shop.broncograveyard.com

Will this work?

I know it says for F series. The only obvious difference i see is the ranger line hooks to the filter at a 90* angle...this one is straight.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

So…

Boiling water and a cold end that you’ve trimmed the old nylon off the barbs works. It’s not the ideal, but it works.

New line and ends with the Dorman tool is probably the best way to go other than going full bore to -6AN PTFE braided line, which is more expensive. I went to the AN stuff just because it can be used for a lot of things. Not just fuel.

Now, that all said, my 92 Ranger someone replaced the pressure line from the pump to the filter in rubber line. But not the high pressure fuel injection line, it was just regular rubber fuel line and it pinholed badly. I needed to fix it quick and cheap. I bent up a bit of aluminum tubing I have (I keep coils of ni-copper brake line in 3/16 and 1/4, then aluminum in 3/8, 1/2, and 5/8 on hand). Bubbled the ends a little, and clamped some fuel injection line on the ends. The 3/8” was a little big, but I was able to work it past the ribs on the pump and the filter and get a clamp on each side of the rib. Bit on the Redneck side, but the lower pressure run on the older trucks it worked just fine.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

So…

Boiling water and a cold end that you’ve trimmed the old nylon off the barbs works. It’s not the ideal, but it works.

New line and ends with the Dorman tool is probably the best way to go other than going full bore to -6AN PTFE braided line, which is more expensive. I went to the AN stuff just because it can be used for a lot of things. Not just fuel.

Now, that all said, my 92 Ranger someone replaced the pressure line from the pump to the filter in rubber line. But not the high pressure fuel injection line, it was just regular rubber fuel line and it pinholed badly. I needed to fix it quick and cheap. I bent up a bit of aluminum tubing I have (I keep coils of ni-copper brake line in 3/16 and 1/4, then aluminum in 3/8, 1/2, and 5/8 on hand). Bubbled the ends a little, and clamped some fuel injection line on the ends. The 3/8” was a little big, but I was able to work it past the ribs on the pump and the filter and get a clamp on each side of the rib. Bit on the Redneck side, but the lower pressure run on the older trucks it worked just fine.

Im going to try the boiling water thing. Since it literally broke right at the barb.

Assuming i can get (whats left of) the fuel filter out of the other end of the hose. Which is what started this in the first place

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Got it fixed today,

The boiling water didnt work, i ended up fucking up the end of the line worse.

Cut that bad part off, put the fitting in a vice, soaked it in lube and worked it on.

So far its not leaking. I got to drive it a whole 2 miles when it popped a brake line

 

[Project88]

Has anyone ever used AN hoses and fittings on these trucks?

 

[Blmpkn]

Has anyone ever used AN hoses and fittings on these trucks?

I'm gonna plumb my 96 with AN stuff, got a bunch kicking around from another project.

I believe @lil_Blue_Ford has the fancy fittings on one of his rigs too..

 

[Project88]

How'd he plumb the line to the rail? On a 2.9

 

[Blmpkn]

How'd he plumb the line to the rail? On a 2.9

Youd have to ask him. I've had a long & tiring few weeks... I could very well be dreaming it up lol.

He'll see my tag and chime in at some point I'm sure.

 

[Project88]

Okay I'll ask him thanks

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

How'd he plumb the line to the rail? On a 2.9

So, I didn’t connect it directly to the rail, I bought the ends that match the fitting on the bit of factory AN going to the rail. Basically replaced from the pump to the braided stainless bit coming off the rail. The rail looks like it accepts an AN style fitting, but it’s opposite of the normal style. I didn’t need to solve that problem because that part was fine on mine.

 

[Project88]

So, I didn’t connect it directly to the rail, I bought the ends that match the fitting on the bit of factory AN going to the rail. Basically replaced from the pump to the braided stainless bit coming off the rail. The rail looks like it accepts an AN style fitting, but it’s opposite of the normal style. I didn’t need to solve that problem because that part was fine on mine.

So you think I wouldn't be able to use such a thing as this? To hook directly into the rail? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-15123
Cause I found my return line needs to be replaced cause it now has a hole in it as well but I purchased and installed a high pressure tank fuel pump from a Gen 2 bronco 2 and it works perfectly having gotten rid of the 2nd fuel pump. I'm thinking about running from the back tank to the fuel rail maybe having a disconnect in the middle somewhere for service and filter but otherwise that being it.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

So you think I wouldn't be able to use such a thing as this? To hook directly into the rail? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-15123
Cause I found my return line needs to be replaced cause it now has a hole in it as well but I purchased and installed a high pressure tank fuel pump from a Gen 2 bronco 2 and it works perfectly having gotten rid of the 2nd fuel pump. I'm thinking about running from the back tank to the fuel rail maybe having a disconnect in the middle somewhere for service and filter but otherwise that being it.

Those kind of fittings are what I used. Tomorrow is going to be a little busy for me and then I’m probably gonna be away from home for a couple days but I’ll try to get some information put together for you. Maybe try to get some video. I’m currently having an argument with my computer about video editing, but I’ll figure something out. Might take a couple days. I actually have to work things out a bit for my 89 Bronco II because I’ve had some janky fuel line stuff going on for probably 10 years now and I want to fix it now that I have the things to fix it correctly.

So basically I have to figure out all the fittings and stuff to do it to mine because I know I don’t have everything on hand that I’ll need. I can give you the whole list for Summit of everything to do it in AN. I’ll need slightly different ends at the motor since I’m 4.0 in that, but I adapted the 2.9 lines so I can tell you what it had. I really wanted to go to a canister fuel filter in my trucks and make them all the same but since Covid I haven’t been able to find a high pressure rated canister filter, they’re all intended for carbed systems. The regular filter for an 89 should work fine though. My Ranger I had to find a different filter that would work because the output was too short to use an AN end.

 

[Project88]

Those kind of fittings are what I used. Tomorrow is going to be a little busy for me and then I’m probably gonna be away from home for a couple days but I’ll try to get some information put together for you. Maybe try to get some video. I’m currently having an argument with my computer about video editing, but I’ll figure something out. Might take a couple days. I actually have to work things out a bit for my 89 Bronco II because I’ve had some janky fuel line stuff going on for probably 10 years now and I want to fix it now that I have the things to fix it correctly.

So basically I have to figure out all the fittings and stuff to do it to mine because I know I don’t have everything on hand that I’ll need. I can give you the whole list for Summit of everything to do it in AN. I’ll need slightly different ends at the motor since I’m 4.0 in that, but I adapted the 2.9 lines so I can tell you what it had. I really wanted to go to a canister fuel filter in my trucks and make them all the same but since Covid I haven’t been able to find a high pressure rated canister filter, they’re all intended for carbed systems. The regular filter for an 89 should work fine though. My Ranger I had to find a different filter that would work because the output was too short to use an AN end.

Yeah I just did the Gen 2 fix and found I have excessive resistance in the or/gy circuit somewhere only allows 6.64 volts back to the pump. Crossing it with power straight from the relay allows the primary pump to cut on I got rid of the frame mounted pump. Hopefully, I can find everything needed to do this job right cause it's been a long time coming to see this truck power itself and move. Since I was 12 I haven't seen this truck move I'm 28 now.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

Yeah I just did the Gen 2 fix and found I have excessive resistance in the or/gy circuit somewhere only allows 6.64 volts back to the pump. Crossing it with power straight from the relay allows the primary pump to cut on I got rid of the frame mounted pump. Hopefully, I can find everything needed to do this job right cause it's been a long time coming to see this truck power itself and move. Since I was 12 I haven't seen this truck move I'm 28 now.

I’m sure we can get you squared away. I did a fuel tank and pump in my second gen last year. Runs a lot better so I want to redo the entire fuel system once I get a couple other things handled. Won’t hurt for me to make a list now and I will just have to make sure I give you the correct ends for the 2.9 motor in the parts list since I’ll have to use the ends for a 4.0 motor on mine.

Always nice to see an older vehicle run and move again. Dad’s one truck hasn’t run since like 93, we are going to finally try to do something about that this year. My dump truck hasn’t run since like 07, I have the front clip tore off it right now, going to get the heads off and hopefully I don’t have to rebuild the whole motor and just the heads are bad.