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What did you do to your Ranger today? (Part Deux!)


The manual transmission trucks didn’t get that since it could get in the way of the shifter. At least my 2011 didn’t. The holes are there. I used them to mount my quad band radio and GMRS radio.
 
Drove it to work, drove it home. Carried a bunch of heads out of the barn and put them in the back of the Ranger to play with later.

You should have left them in the barn (or buried them out back). Definitely shouldn't have mentioned them here. Now there's evidence!


My thought's exactly!

There ya go again, makin it weird.

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You started it. You with your heads in the barn!
 
That's what high pass, low pass, and band pass filters are for.

How does that work? I have 3 antennas I need to set up. standard CB, a marine radio and a Garmin GPS antenna.
 
How does that work? I have 3 antennas I need to set up. standard CB, a marine radio and a Garmin GPS antenna.

That takes someone who knows how to do the math to figure it out. Technician and General license study covers it some. Extra gets into more detail on it. There is probably a separate manual (Maybe the antenna manual sold by ARRL and others that covers that information without having to take a course). I figure it's just easier to space the antennas out. Not a guarantee that I won't still need to install a filter or two but less likely. So far, so good for the GMRS, CB, and what was the Quad Band antenna mount, now the Dual Band mount.
 
That's what high pass, low pass, and band pass filters are for.

It may come to that but I'm trying to avoid it.
 
In anticipation of nicer weather I bought s new fuel tank, straps, tank vent, new powder coated calipers, rear drums with all the hardware and adjusters, new parking brake cables and I’m ordering new steel brake lines, extended brake hoses and a fuel sending unit this weekend. A Bronco weekend fast approaches.
 
Well i figured i was really pushing my luck. So i changed out the timing chain tensioner. They old one's still had a good amount of tension left to them. 282,000 km (175000 miles) synthetic oil every 10,000 km sense new paid off :)
 
Well i figured i was really pushing my luck. So i changed out the timing chain tensioner. They old one's still had a good amount of tension left to them. 282,000 km (175000 miles) synthetic oil every 10,000 km sense new paid off :)

It's usually failure to change oil that causes them to fail. Take a look at the videos about timing chain tensioner failures on Youtube. Almost every one of them involves an engine with baked on varnish or sludge due to people not changing the oil.
 
Well i figured i was really pushing my luck. So i changed out the timing chain tensioner. They old one's still had a good amount of tension left to them. 282,000 km (175000 miles) synthetic oil every 10,000 km sense new paid off :)

Mine were the same. I saved them as spares to get me by while awaiting new parts just in case since nothing seemed to be wrong with them.
 
How does that work? I have 3 antennas I need to set up. standard CB, a marine radio and a Garmin GPS antenna.

I'll use some very examples here, and a very brief explanation of receiver design.

Receivers have various circuits within them to aid in improving reception. Basically, a signal is received and mixed to a common frequency called an IF (intermedia frequency). For FM broadcast receivers you have a band that is 20 MHz wide (108 - 88 = 20). Since we aren't interested in anything above and below those frequencies we want to eliminate them. So, a bandpass filter is used that only allows the frequencies we are interested in to pass through the filter and attenuates anything below 88 MHz or above 108 MHz In doing this we remove the potential for a very strong out of band signal from overloading the receiver's RF amplifiers. A good example of this is TV channel 6 that spans from 82 - 88 MHz. If you drive by a TV transmitter with an FM radio with a poorly designed receiver it may lower the gain of the receiver's amplifiers which will effectively reduce your ability to receive weaker FM stations. Another common problem is strong signals can generate something called IF images that will appear at the frequency of the original signal minus the IF. Receiver design is fairly good about this now, but in the past it wasn't uncommon to hear aircraft suddenly come over the top of an FM station because the aircraft band is just above the FM band. So, in this case the most common IF frequency for an FM receiver is 10.7 MHZ or 10.695 MHz. So, a strong signal at 116.6 Mhz would have an IF image 10.7 Mhz below it at 105.9 MHz, and every 10.7 MHz below that. Using a band pass filter that only allows signals between 88 and 108 MHz you reduce problems from the TV station below the FM band and the strong signals above the FM band. Alternatively, if you are only having problems from strong signals above or below the FM band you can use a high pass filter that only allows signals above 88 MHz to pass, or below 108 MHz. Televisions used to have some really poor receivers. One of the ham bands used to be where channel 1 was located (that's why TVs start with channel 2). Several problems could occur when there was a strong signal on the 6 meter band. One of them was co-channel interference to channel 2. Another was that the IF frequency for televisions was 45.75 MHz for video and 41.25 MHz for audio, which was close enough to be "overloaded" by a strong signal on 50 MHz. Since a television only needs to receive frequencies above 60 MHz, and high pass filter would attenuate anything below 60 MHz and reduce the possibility of both problems for the TV viewer.

You can also use the same concepts to use one feedline to multiple antennas on different bands by only allowing the frequencies for a specific band to reach the desired antenna. Those giant TV and radio transmitter towers you see that have five TV stations and 8 FM stations on the tower don't use 13 feedlines running to their antennas. They share feedlines to multiple antennas and pass the signal for channel 24 to the channel 24 antenna while preventing the signals from other channels from using that antenna.
 
Going to be hand washed once I am done with the wife's car. The ranger looks great washed
 
I'll use some very examples here, and a very brief explanation of receiver design.

Receivers have various circuits within them to aid in improving reception. Basically, a signal is received and mixed to a common frequency called an IF (intermedia frequency). For FM broadcast receivers you have a band that is 20 MHz wide (108 - 88 = 20). Since we aren't interested in anything above and below those frequencies we want to eliminate them. So, a bandpass filter is used that only allows the frequencies we are interested in to pass through the filter and attenuates anything below 88 MHz or above 108 MHz In doing this we remove the potential for a very strong out of band signal from overloading the receiver's RF amplifiers. A good example of this is TV channel 6 that spans from 82 - 88 MHz. If you drive by a TV transmitter with an FM radio with a poorly designed receiver it may lower the gain of the receiver's amplifiers which will effectively reduce your ability to receive weaker FM stations. Another common problem is strong signals can generate something called IF images that will appear at the frequency of the original signal minus the IF. Receiver design is fairly good about this now, but in the past it wasn't uncommon to hear aircraft suddenly come over the top of an FM station because the aircraft band is just above the FM band. So, in this case the most common IF frequency for an FM receiver is 10.7 MHZ or 10.695 MHz. So, a strong signal at 116.6 Mhz would have an IF image 10.7 Mhz below it at 105.9 MHz, and every 10.7 MHz below that. Using a band pass filter that only allows signals between 88 and 108 MHz you reduce problems from the TV station below the FM band and the strong signals above the FM band. Alternatively, if you are only having problems from strong signals above or below the FM band you can use a high pass filter that only allows signals above 88 MHz to pass, or below 108 MHz. Televisions used to have some really poor receivers. One of the ham bands used to be where channel 1 was located (that's why TVs start with channel 2). Several problems could occur when there was a strong signal on the 6 meter band. One of them was co-channel interference to channel 2. Another was that the IF frequency for televisions was 45.75 MHz for video and 41.25 MHz for audio, which was close enough to be "overloaded" by a strong signal on 50 MHz. Since a television only needs to receive frequencies above 60 MHz, and high pass filter would attenuate anything below 60 MHz and reduce the possibility of both problems for the TV viewer.

You can also use the same concepts to use one feedline to multiple antennas on different bands by only allowing the frequencies for a specific band to reach the desired antenna. Those giant TV and radio transmitter towers you see that have five TV stations and 8 FM stations on the tower don't use 13 feedlines running to their antennas. They share feedlines to multiple antennas and pass the signal for channel 24 to the channel 24 antenna while preventing the signals from other channels from using that antenna.


Thank you, I needed that!
 
What a long day. Washed the titan, Mazda, ranger , and wrangler.
 

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I'll use some very examples here, and a very brief explanation of receiver design.

Receivers have various circuits within them to aid in improving reception. Basically, a signal is received and mixed to a common frequency called an IF (intermedia frequency). For FM broadcast receivers you have a band that is 20 MHz wide (108 - 88 = 20). Since we aren't interested in anything above and below those frequencies we want to eliminate them. So, a bandpass filter is used that only allows the frequencies we are interested in to pass through the filter and attenuates anything below 88 MHz or above 108 MHz In doing this we remove the potential for a very strong out of band signal from overloading the receiver's RF amplifiers. A good example of this is TV channel 6 that spans from 82 - 88 MHz. If you drive by a TV transmitter with an FM radio with a poorly designed receiver it may lower the gain of the receiver's amplifiers which will effectively reduce your ability to receive weaker FM stations. Another common problem is strong signals can generate something called IF images that will appear at the frequency of the original signal minus the IF. Receiver design is fairly good about this now, but in the past it wasn't uncommon to hear aircraft suddenly come over the top of an FM station because the aircraft band is just above the FM band. So, in this case the most common IF frequency for an FM receiver is 10.7 MHZ or 10.695 MHz. So, a strong signal at 116.6 Mhz would have an IF image 10.7 Mhz below it at 105.9 MHz, and every 10.7 MHz below that. Using a band pass filter that only allows signals between 88 and 108 MHz you reduce problems from the TV station below the FM band and the strong signals above the FM band. Alternatively, if you are only having problems from strong signals above or below the FM band you can use a high pass filter that only allows signals above 88 MHz to pass, or below 108 MHz. Televisions used to have some really poor receivers. One of the ham bands used to be where channel 1 was located (that's why TVs start with channel 2). Several problems could occur when there was a strong signal on the 6 meter band. One of them was co-channel interference to channel 2. Another was that the IF frequency for televisions was 45.75 MHz for video and 41.25 MHz for audio, which was close enough to be "overloaded" by a strong signal on 50 MHz. Since a television only needs to receive frequencies above 60 MHz, and high pass filter would attenuate anything below 60 MHz and reduce the possibility of both problems for the TV viewer.

You can also use the same concepts to use one feedline to multiple antennas on different bands by only allowing the frequencies for a specific band to reach the desired antenna. Those giant TV and radio transmitter towers you see that have five TV stations and 8 FM stations on the tower don't use 13 feedlines running to their antennas. They share feedlines to multiple antennas and pass the signal for channel 24 to the channel 24 antenna while preventing the signals from other channels from using that antenna.

I agree that filters are a fix for and issue. I view them as a fix for something you can’t change. I had to do that for the fuel pump in the 2011 since I can’t change the system and it was broadcasting a lot of noise in the CB band.

For antenna location on antennas not installed yet. I think it is better to locate the antennas where such issues aren’t a problem. Taking in things like transmission being focused in a particular location due to antenna placement. ie, if an antenna is mounted on the right, rear of a vehicle, transmission peak output would be to the forward, left.

Ideally, the best place to mount an antenna in the center of the roof for best reception and transmission all around the vehicle. Since there are multiple antennas involved, this is bot possible and compromises must be made. Much or all of this, I’m guessing you already know but the group at large may not.

In any case, I view filters as a bandaid for a problem. Mainly for something you can’t change.

Planning a good antenna location that, at least in theory, prevents the need for filters is a better approach.
 

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