My New House & Workshop

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Where does the power come from? On its own circuit or as part of another? If its part of another with outlets i believe you can put in a gfci upstream and it will be protected. One of the others with more knowledge can confirm.
Otherwise a gfc breaker.

 

[2drxploder]

what he said, personally id do breaker cuz going downstream off outlet may leave you in the dark gfci outlets can sometimes trip while plugging something in/ out., im no electrcian, also i did not know the vanity light needed to be gfci protected

 

[Rick W]

Feed the light & switch off the gfi outlet by switch

 

[franklin2]

Feed the light & switch off the gfi outlet by switch

That's the way most people wire it. If it trips you will be in the dark, but there are no rules on that. Of course you have no inspections, so you can wire it anyway you like. I would think getting electrocuted while changing the light bulb above the bathroom sink is rare, but they usually make rule changes in reaction to something that happened, so I guess it did happen at some time.

 

[Jim Oaks]

I found the gfci outlet for the hair dryer in my shower worthless. Keeps tripping.

 

[Snoranger]

I found the gfci outlet for the hair dryer in my shower worthless. Keeps tripping.

Where do you plug in your bathing toaster?

 

[Jim Oaks]

Don't be ridiculous. I'm not going to risk letting my Eggos get wet and soggy.

 

[franklin2]

I found the gfci outlet for the hair dryer in my shower worthless. Keeps tripping.

You will find that happens with the outlets outside and other damp locations also. Every time it rains or snows, my Christmas lights go out because I followed the rules and put a GFCI on the front porch.

How they work, they monitor the amount of current going and coming on both the black and the white. According to one of those old dudes, there is a law that the current in a circuit is equal in all parts of the circuit. If you accidentally get onto the circuit with your body, that will be another pathway for the current to go through, and that makes an imbalance on the black and the white wire in the GFCI. It recognizes this imbalance and trips. There is a threshold for the amount of imbalance, don't know what it is off the top of my head.

But any dampness around the outlets can cause stray currents, which will imbalance the circuit in the GFCI and cause it to nuisance trip. Just the nature of the beast.

 

[Curious Hound]

You will find that happens with the outlets outside and other damp locations also. Every time it rains or snows, my Christmas lights go out because I followed the rules and put a GFCI on the front porch.

How they work, they monitor the amount of current going and coming on both the black and the white. According to one of those old dudes, there is a law that the current in a circuit is equal in all parts of the circuit. If you accidentally get onto the circuit with your body, that will be another pathway for the current to go through, and that makes an imbalance on the black and the white wire in the GFCI. It recognizes this imbalance and trips. There is a threshold for the amount of imbalance, don't know what it is off the top of my head.

But any dampness around the outlets can cause stray currents, which will imbalance the circuit in the GFCI and cause it to nuisance trip. Just the nature of the beast.

I'm pretty sure he was joking about having an outlet in his shower for the hair dryer.

Quote "According to one of those old dudes, there is a law that the current in a circuit is equal in all parts of the circuit. "

Not quite. Kirchoffs law; the sum of the currents entering a node shall equal the sum of the currents leaving a node. A "node" being a point where the circuit branches to several different paths. Therefore, when your body becomes part of the circuit, a new node is formed and part of the current flows through the original circuit and part through your body. The amounts follow ohms law. Your statements about imbalance are correct. The threshold is measured in milliamps. Approximately 5 Milliamps according to a source I just looked at.

 

[Roert42]

I'm pretty sure he was joking about having an outlet in his shower for the hair dryer.

Quote "According to one of those old dudes, there is a law that the current in a circuit is equal in all parts of the circuit. "

Not quite. Kirchoffs law; the same of the currents entering a node shall equally the sum of the currents leaving a node. A "node" being a point where the circuit branches to several different paths. Therefore, when your body becomes part of the circuit, a new node is formed and part of the current flows through the original circuit and part through your body. The amounts follow ohms law. Your statements about imbalance are correct. The threshold is measured in milliamps. Approximately 5 Milliamps according to a source I just looked at.

I believe a household GFCI is supposed to trip at not more then 6mA, and a RCD ( think GFCI but to protect industrial machines not people ) are set to trip around 30mA. Not that the second part is relevant.

 

[2drxploder]

let my try my luck before i google this, may even wait a few responses: ohm's law.... that is/ has something to with the: the eagle flew over the indian and rock right? (E = IxR) where you can plug n play 2 variables, to solve for the third? im a plumber by trade, pretty sure my pay gets cut if im right? also i will remember something from high school

 

[Roert42]

let my try my luck before i google this, may even wait a few responses: ohm's law.... that is/ has something to with the: the eagle flew over the indian and rock right? (E = IxR) where you can plug n play 2 variables, to solve for the third? im a plumber by trade, pretty sure my pay gets cut if im right? also i will remember something from high school

Exactly

 

[Curious Hound]

Plumber? You're already at bottom pay. They just don't tell you that so you don't feel bad.

 

[Jim Oaks]

Today I walked in the shop and saw a dark object on the wall about 30 feet away. Suspecting it was a spider, and having a fear of spiders, I zoomed in on my phone and took a photo. Then felt the blood leave my face as I stepped back outside.

I grabbed a can of bee & wasp spray that will spray long distance and sprayed it. It fell to the floor and it's big black legs were waving around while it was on its back.

It was a big ass spider. I'm pretty sure it was a tarantula.

First the snake and now this. I'm not sure how much more of this I can take.

 

[Roert42]

My wife is the same way.

Spiders and snakes don’t want to bother you, and they are likely more afraid of you then you are of them. Most of the time they are good to have around as they will keep down the rodent and bug population.

If I find a spider in my house I just relocate them outside.