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WTF Haynes!?


Rose2300

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So I just picked up a haynes manual, and was just thumbing through it when I noticed that they never list the 97 and older 2.3l?? it lists 2001-2005, 2006 and later, and then the 2.5l 1998-2001, but not the 97 and older. WTF is up with that!?
 
So I just picked up a haynes manual, and was just thumbing through it when I noticed that they never list the 97 and older 2.3l?? it lists 2001-2005, 2006 and later, and then the 2.5l 1998-2001, but not the 97 and older. WTF is up with that!?

Those manuals aren't even good TP.

Throw it away and find a set of factory books. I've got them for everything--mostly off Ebay. Failing that, I've had to buy a few from helminc.com. Chiltons and Haynes are good for shimming a rocky piano or starting a fire, so your $20 isn't a complete waste.
 
chiltons seem to be way better than haynes in my experience, but still junk in comparison to a ford manual
 
I go along with the factory manuals. They leave chilton's & Hayes in the dust.


RonV :) :) :)
 
i replaced both my chiltons and my haynes with TRS
 
I've heard Mitchell manuals are pretty good.

Anyone have those?

From what I can tell, the Mitchell manuals are very close to the factory manuals. They're what I normally use (although if I do have a Haynes manual and it happens to contain the info I need, it's what I'll have at the truck since I don't care about getting greasy handprints all over it.
 
The problem is that they try and cover too broad range of years in one book. I have a shop manual for my Ford Tempo, it is only specific to the 1993 model year and it's thicker than a Hayes that covers 84-94. And it doesn't even include wiring diagrams. I got frustrated with Hayes and Clinton's when I noticed that every time I looked something up, it told you what you already knew and not what you needed to know.
 
The problem is that they try and cover too broad range of years in one book. I have a shop manual for my Ford Tempo, it is only specific to the 1993 model year and it's thicker than a Hayes that covers 84-94. And it doesn't even include wiring diagrams. I got frustrated with Hayes and Clinton's when I noticed that every time I looked something up, it told you what you already knew and not what you needed to know.

And I can't stand how they aren't specific on bolt sizes/strengths etc. Its the little sh%t your gonna look up! I personally have alldata and plenty mechanic friends who love getting alldata updates from me lol. Every car from 82 to 2011 but man its a hard drive eater. I think its up to 250 gigs now! Lol
 
I've got access to Mitchell On Demand (Shopkey 5), covers everything pretty well.
 

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