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BeefStew42791
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superdave, perhaps I can give you the results your looking for. My uncle has this very system of sending an electrical current through roughly 1/2 - 3/4 of a gallon of water for his 1999 v8 f-150. First off I will be very direct and tell everyone his overall gas mileage did infact double! so right off the bat it can be said it did work BUT not without a little bit of thinking power and they all can be addressed right in the very questions you asked dave.
#1 I think its pretty clear to the answer of this question. Yes an electrical current run through water will split the molecules, basic chemistry proves this even. BUT for this process to be useful enough you need a catalyst; a proper amount of baking soda works just fine.
#2, 3, and 4 Yes the computer will read the altered amount of fuel/air ratio and adjust the fuel level. BUT because of the O2 senser in the exhaust pipe located near/on the catalytic converter it will read it as a HIGHER level of air because the hydrogen burns relatively completely to the point that the senser will not recognize it. THIS communicates to the computer that because there is more air then is allowed for it adds fuel, because it thinks your burning lean. Now your not necessarily burning lean, it just believes that because of the added oxygen from the extra being taken in from the water molecule split. This is an easy fix however, all that is needed is a simple spacer for the O2 sensor. This simply spaces the sensor away from the pipe just enough. This actually allows the sensor to actually do its job better because it only reads the level of heat in the burn. After these measures are taken though the computer will then read it as needing to adjust the fuel level to a more lean mixture because of the added hydrogen. Because you are using 2 parts oxygen/1 part gasoline/1 part hydrogen it will then use half the fuel as opposed to 1 part air/1 part gasoline.
Now a second thing to watch out for is that you are holding enough water in the storage tank. As I cannot state a specific amount needed for every car or engine out there I can say specifically how much was needed for my uncle's 5.4 v8. He had very simply, a 3inch pvc pipe cut to about a foot in length with caps on either end, with cleanouts REFILLED WEEKLY (yes you cannot just leave it alone).
Finally make sure to check your fuse size as it compares to your energy level in the regulator used. It seems pretty simple but an unequal fuse will bust. Ex. a 20 amp fuse with a 30 amp regulator.
The problem most people have with these hydrogen fuel "generators" if you will, is that one, they do not allow for enough of a volume, two they fail to use a catalyst, it can be done without one but no significant gains will be noticed due to the fact that if the chemical process is done without a catalyst then it will prolong itself naturally of course, third they fail to refill it..very common problem, don't ask me why they don't think of this though..they notice the gains for about a week and then nothing..cmon people think about it here. Hope this helps
OH and btw, he even noticed some picked up power
..can't say exactly though where it came from..(sarcasm, he never modified his engine except for this hydrogen cell)
#1 I think its pretty clear to the answer of this question. Yes an electrical current run through water will split the molecules, basic chemistry proves this even. BUT for this process to be useful enough you need a catalyst; a proper amount of baking soda works just fine.
#2, 3, and 4 Yes the computer will read the altered amount of fuel/air ratio and adjust the fuel level. BUT because of the O2 senser in the exhaust pipe located near/on the catalytic converter it will read it as a HIGHER level of air because the hydrogen burns relatively completely to the point that the senser will not recognize it. THIS communicates to the computer that because there is more air then is allowed for it adds fuel, because it thinks your burning lean. Now your not necessarily burning lean, it just believes that because of the added oxygen from the extra being taken in from the water molecule split. This is an easy fix however, all that is needed is a simple spacer for the O2 sensor. This simply spaces the sensor away from the pipe just enough. This actually allows the sensor to actually do its job better because it only reads the level of heat in the burn. After these measures are taken though the computer will then read it as needing to adjust the fuel level to a more lean mixture because of the added hydrogen. Because you are using 2 parts oxygen/1 part gasoline/1 part hydrogen it will then use half the fuel as opposed to 1 part air/1 part gasoline.
Now a second thing to watch out for is that you are holding enough water in the storage tank. As I cannot state a specific amount needed for every car or engine out there I can say specifically how much was needed for my uncle's 5.4 v8. He had very simply, a 3inch pvc pipe cut to about a foot in length with caps on either end, with cleanouts REFILLED WEEKLY (yes you cannot just leave it alone).
Finally make sure to check your fuse size as it compares to your energy level in the regulator used. It seems pretty simple but an unequal fuse will bust. Ex. a 20 amp fuse with a 30 amp regulator.
The problem most people have with these hydrogen fuel "generators" if you will, is that one, they do not allow for enough of a volume, two they fail to use a catalyst, it can be done without one but no significant gains will be noticed due to the fact that if the chemical process is done without a catalyst then it will prolong itself naturally of course, third they fail to refill it..very common problem, don't ask me why they don't think of this though..they notice the gains for about a week and then nothing..cmon people think about it here. Hope this helps
OH and btw, he even noticed some picked up power
..can't say exactly though where it came from..(sarcasm, he never modified his engine except for this hydrogen cell)
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