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What's the deal with WalMart?


What a great thread.

Walmart is a good place to shop. Walmart has destroyed some local economies nearby where I live - Hearne, Texas is an example. From a corporate standpoint, they have tried to be better neighbors since. That has not always been the case. They employ hundreds of people, many part-time older employees. They have a career track much like McDonalds that will allow someone with only high school education to advance to management. They have changed a great deal since Sam Walton died. That is a testimonial to having an inspired leader running a company.

MAKG makes a great point about choice. He chooses to exercise his freedom and shop at a small store. He enjoys the relationship with the people and getting exactly what he wants by waiting for it to arrive.

Walmart is not the only company buying from or having products manufactured in China. They are the biggest by far. If Walmart went away tomorrow the government of China would still go on - as would the USA. BTW - I believe K-Mart is suffering right now because they used Rosie O'Donnell and the chick from Laverne and Shirley as a spokes "persons" for their store too long.

Walmart offers me a wider choice. My local stores do not have good people handling their fruit - so I go to a Brookshires for all my fruit. I buy California grapes and Washington apples. Walmart does not have the best deal on tires, so I do to Discount Tire. Walmart does have the lowest prices on American made items like Coca-Cola, Jelly, Crackers, etc. Occasionally, I do buy stuff that is obviously made in China - dog chew toys for instance. My decision to buy at Walmart is often based on the fact the stores have gotten so huge I'd rather pay more for a gallon of milk than walk to the back of the store for just one item.

America and Capitalism are slowly making their marks on China and companies like it. The Chinese are fast becoming Capitalists in everything but how they rule. The people are eventually going to see enough of the US - I suspect - that they will demand democracy. They tried it once, they'll do it again. Therefore I don't have a bit of problem with the idea of buying their products. Even though they are getting pennies an hour for their work - they wouldn't have had those pennies if it were not for the American marketplace. The same is true of NAFTA - Mexican citizens have more money in their pockets than ever before since NAFTA. When you go to vacation spots along the Texas coast now, middle class Mexicans are (legally) visiting the water parks and beaches - and spending money in Brownsville, Padre Island, Corpus Christi and even Galveston. As the Chinese population has more and more money to spend they will develop local economies and do just what we do - choose to buy Chinese or western goods. As long as the Communist government in China continues to allow western goods to be sold - we have a shot at converting the country. It may not be in our lifetime.

America has a big problem. It's not Walmart. There is a war raging around the world that our media people have been downplaying since 1993. There are a significant number of people in the Middle East who want us and our Rangers dead and buried. No computers, no cars, just prayer five times a day. We are number one on their target list. The people currently running for president hardly acknowledge the war right now. I shudder to think what will happen if the wrong person is elected to run this country. Shopping at Walmart will be low on our list - mainly because shopping places will become free-fire zones like they became in Israel a few years back.
 
No, that war BS is just that -- BS.

I've BEEN to Israel. I've driven right through a "riot" in Jericho. At least that's how it was reported in the press (I didn't see anything at all). I've also been to the Lebanese border and Golan while they were being "bombarded." I spent an hour or so every day on the notorious #12 Jerusalem bus. But where was my life most in jeopardy? Crossing the FN street in front of the Knesset. It's TRAFFIC that is the greatest risk in Israel. Don't believe everything the neocons tell you. They are LYING to "save face" for a stupid war.

China hasn't been truly Communist since Mao died. I wouldn't hold my breath that "democracy" will happen there due to capitalism. The two are independent -- there is a VERY long list of autocratic capitalist states such as all those middle eastern kingdoms you think are out to get us -- and tying them together is another bunch of neocon bullshit.
 
perhaps the riotous crowd in jericho got wind of your pending arrival and scattered to the wind.j/k
 
Here is the BIG picture, ....
China Exports to U.S.

Of the $287.8 billion in American imports from China in 2006, the following product categories had the highest values.

Computer accessories, peripherals and parts …US$28.9 billion (10.1% of China to U.S. exports, up 12.4% from 2005)
Miscellaneous household goods (e.g. clocks) … $26.5 billion (9.2%, up 17.2%)
Toys & sporting goods (e.g. bicycles) … $22.2 billion (7.7%, up 10.2%)
Computers … $17.4 billion (6%, up 20.2%)
Non-cotton household furnishings & clothing … $14.6 billion (5.1%, up 11.3%)
Video equipment (e.g. DVD players) … $14.5 billion (5.0%, up 34.9%)
Household furniture … $13.2 billion (4.6%, up 14.3%)
Footwear ... $10.7 billion (3.7%, up 11.1%)
Cotton household furnishings & clothing … $9.9 billion (3.4%, up 29.6%)
Telecommunications equipment … $8.3 billion (3.0%, up 23.7%)
Fastest-Growing Chinese Exports to U.S.

Below are American imports from China in 2006 with the highest percentage sales increases from 2005.

Zinc … US$8.6 million (up 616% from 2005)
Nickel … $25.9 million (up 273%)
Lumber … $74.7 million (up 213%)
Specialized mining & oil processing equipment … $96.6 million (up 188%)
Oil field drilling equipment & platforms … $1.6 billion (up 182%)
 
Yes it is true Wal-Mart has seemed to master the American way. If they would find a way to insert the forgotten part it could be a great store...quality. Not only in the products but in knowledge. I also tend to shop at the small "mom and pop" stores not only for the knowledge but the atmosphere. I don't have to wait in line forever and the people there know their products. For example; when I want a good laugh I go to Wal-Mart to have a set of big tires installed. 2 hours to install 4 35in ProComp M/Ts and they claim they can't balance them; too big. Wal-Mart sells a 35in tire. I could have went to a tire shop to have them installed and balanced for just about the same price in about 30 min. I just feel bad for the people who actually get their vehicles serviced there. I like quality and knowing that I can get my questions answered; I don't mind paying a few bucks more for that.

Matt
 
Wal-Mart

Saw political cartoon in the paper one day, it was a picture of of a Wal-Mart building with a Chinese Consulate building on the end of it.
 
I don't hate walmart, but I try not to go in there too much. Seems everytime I do, I spend a lot of money. They do have good deals on the exact same made in china stuff other stores do. Why not buy from them?

I to also buy tires from them.. well some of my tires anyway. I bought the set thats on the B2 from them. Some sort of Uniroyal Liberators. I did support another place when I bought my BFG A/T's from a mom and pop shop.

Problem is, the wal-marts around my neighborhood make me think of the middle east. It is nothing but immigrants. Not that I have a problem with them, but they make the store a mess.
 
No, that war BS is just that -- BS.

Don't believe everything the neocons tell you. They are LYING to "save face" for a stupid war....there is a VERY long list of autocratic capitalist states such as all those middle eastern kingdoms you think are out to get us -- and tying them together is another bunch of neocon bullshit.


Your loony left liberal heroes voted for the war based on the same intel that the President saw. Some even made the case for the war in a very public way, in front of TV cameras.

That, dear boy, is an indisputable FACT.

Of course, you can deny it and wish it away the same way they do, but it doesn't change reality one iota.
 
I live in a region that doesn't have many chain stores, and still has quite a few Mom & Pops. You have it ALL wrong. You go into a store where the owner and employees have all been there for a very long time and actually know the stock. They help you find something, you order it and get it the next day or the day after. You don't end up returning it because you actually had some competent help and made an informed choice the first time. For warranty work, they work the same as big boxes -- 90 days, then mail it to the manufacturer.

There is a WalMart near work -- in Palo Alto of all places (I guess they have to serve the lower-class rich people), and I've been there a few times. It might be cheaper for groceries (no idea -- I won't buy groceries an hour away from home), but it really isn't for a lot of other stuff. Things tend to be cheaper at home -- even with the "isolation tax" -- just because it's a working class neighborhood.


No, I don't have it ALL wrong. Are you saying big chains aren't putting Mom and Pops out of business??

As far as returning things, I was thinking Christmas time....e.g. I buy my nephew a present and ship it to him. If he doesn't like it or there is a problem he has easy support. This is a huge factor for many people.

I have bought two TVs in the last few years. The first TV I purchased was from a Mom and Pop shop in Houghton, Michigan. The TV was overpriced, the service was bad, and the individual I talked to didn't know what he was talking about. That shop has since been driven out of business (probably by the local Wal-Mart).

A few months ago I purchased an HDTV from Wal-Mart. The guy I talked to was very well informed. Even though I had carefully researched HDTVs and am fairly technologically inclined, he was able to give me a lot of new information. He was very friendly and competent.

Don't go implying that the help you'll get at Wal-Mart is incompetent. You're WRONG.

I think you live in a unique area and it's causing you to get stuck. In MOST of the U.S. people shop at retail chains and Mom and Pops have been and continue to be phased out.
 
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No, I don't have it ALL wrong. Are you saying big chains aren't putting Mom and Pops out of business??

As far as returning things, I was thinking Christmas time....e.g. I buy my nephew a present and ship it to him. If he doesn't like it or there is a problem he has easy support. This is a huge factor for many people.

I have bought two TVs in the last few years. The first TV I purchased was from a Mom and Pop shop in Houghton, Michigan. The TV was overpriced, the service was bad, and the individual I talked to didn't know what he was talking about. That shop has since been driven out of business (probably by the local Wal-Mart).

A few months ago I purchased an HDTV from Wal-Mart. The guy I talked to was very well informed. Even though I had carefully researched HDTVs and am fairly technologically inclined, he was able to give me a lot of new information. He was very friendly and competent.

Don't go implying that the help you'll get at Wal-Mart is incompetent. You're WRONG.

I think you live in a unique area and it's causing you to get stuck. In MOST of the U.S. people shop at retail chains and Mom and Pops have been and continue to be phased out.


This happens at all stores. Under-qualified people getting jobs they really shouldn't be getting.

Example:

This previous summer, I kept getting mushrooms in my lawn. I was a first time homeowner and never had to care for grass before. I do know that mushrooms are a fungus and they love water. I figured I might be over-watering. Make some adjustments in the sprinkler settings, and the problem remained. Now, I don't know what to do, so I head to Home Depot. Head to the gardening area, look at the shelves (yes, like a deer in headlights) full of crap I've never been around. Nobody offered to help, I had to ask. And when I did, I got the same look (deer in headlights) and the answer, "Duuhhhh, I don't know." This came from the guy working that department. Which pisses me off because I've applied for a job at Home Depot several times when I was in high school (roughly 10 years ago). At the time, they gave you a little test with all these math questions...........apparently when you ace Home Depot's math test they consider you over-qualified and hire some retarded DIP$H!T. :icon_confused::dntknw: Make any sense? Not to me.




All this talk about Mom and Pop shops. Quite frankly.......THEY SUCK. All my expericences with them are: too expensive, never have what you need, they hire the same incompetent people Walmart, BestBuy, and Home Depot hire, never OPEN when you need (I can shop at Walmart 24 hours/day).

Another mom/pop business that's losing business are movie rental stores. With big names like Block Buster and all these internet stores like Net Flix, who needs the overpriced movie you can only watch for day. Go to Block Buster spend a couple bucks and you have a week (or what ever it is these days......I don't rent). Only bad thing about this........Block Buster doesn't have PORN!




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Your loony left liberal heroes voted for the war based on the same intel that the President saw. Some even made the case for the war in a very public way, in front of TV cameras.

That, dear boy, is an indisputable FACT.

Of course, you can deny it and wish it away the same way they do, but it doesn't change reality one iota.

I don't have any loony left liberal heroes. Do you believe the world is separated into two groups?

I have never accepted personality cults. I might sign onto an idea, but NEVER to a person, and ESPECIALLY not to a political party. The war is what it is. It was manufactured, and Congress fell all over itself (both major parties) cooperating with that. There is plenty of disgrace to go around, and having the Democrats in power in Congress really hasn't made very much difference. Not that anyone should have expected it to.
 
Levi Strauss & Co. found out what so many other companies had previously realized: people are only willing to go so far in support of US-made goods; when the price gets too high, people buy elsewhere. Even the Levi's name has a limit to its appeal.
Once I looked at the website for Bill's Khakis that Glenn Beck advertises, made in USA. Sorry, but I don't have $99 to spend on a pair of pants. I buy American when I can, but Chinese stuff is so ubiquitous that you can't avoid it.
Wal-Mart is just giving people what they want...cheap stuff. I was joking with my parents today at lunch that I shop at K-Mart because the lines are short since no one goes there (it's also much closer to my house). Went to Wal-Mart afterward to get oil for my mom's car, walked in, looked at the lines, turned back around and went to K-Mart. Cost a little more but I saved a bunch of time.
 
The tooth fairy is a dude in that one tv commercial as well, can't remember whose commercial it is...
As far as going to wal-mart I made the mrs. go herself today. When I go there I'm like those little cartoon buggers on that quit smoking commercial...instead of going crazy over nicotine; I want out of that place. Ever look at the walmart sign....has a red communist star in the logo...that place evil to me for some reason...just don't know why though.

Matt
 

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