v8 swap Q

[noel]

i am going to do the swap on my 98 ranger 4x4 & have a 96 EX for donor.& have come to think that a 4406 would be the way to go but have two Q about the install
first it says to move the holes for the engine plate mount to the right 1/2" i am not sure i know what they are talking about (engine plate ) or what holes where but if i can get a pic or drawing ill do it if they are talking about the motor mounts wouldn't you have to do both sides ??????????
next do i need an elec 4406 for the buttons i have on the dash or would i have to use a manual 4406 ??????????
thx for any help noel

 

[V8 Level II]

The 4406 cases sit very close to the Ranger's left frame rail and the u-joint is very close to the nose of the fuel tank. I moved mine 3/8" toward the passenger side by slotting and rewelding the holes in both engine mount plates and those in the trans x-member. You might be able to get away with 1/2", maybe. Just don't go too far because moving the engine/transmission/t-case to right also brings the passenger side exhaust closer to the passenger side frame rail up near the engine. There's not a lot of room there to begin with.

The electric 4406 would need to use the GEM module from the same donor vehicle to control the t-case shift motor and clutch. It is operated and wired differently from the electric 1354 in the Ranger. I think I remember that one guy on www.explorerforum.com finally figured out how to adapt the whole mess to his 5.0 Explorer. IMO, it is better to simply use the more reliable manual version of the 4406. You'd need the shift linkage, lever and boot from a 97~2003 F150 to adapt it.

 

[77'cj7]

I managed to fit the 4406 without shifting the motor any. Its tight, expecially the driveshaft to gas tank clearance, but workable.

 

[noel]

The 4406 cases sit very close to the Ranger's left frame rail and the u-joint is very close to the nose of the fuel tank. I moved mine 3/8" toward the passenger side by slotting and rewelding the holes in both engine mount plates and those in the trans x-member. You might be able to get away with 1/2", maybe. Just don't go too far because moving the engine/transmission/t-case to right also brings the passenger side exhaust closer to the passenger side frame rail up near the engine. There's not a lot of room there to begin with.

The electric 4406 would need to use the GEM module from the same donor vehicle to control the t-case shift motor and clutch. It is operated and wired differently from the electric 1354 in the Ranger. I think I remember that one guy on www.explorerforum.com finally figured out how to adapt the whole mess to his 5.0 Explorer. IMO, it is better to simply use the more reliable manual version of the 4406. You'd need the shift linkage, lever and boot from a 97~2003 F150 to adapt it.

do you make the plate holes longer or the gross member holes longer &i guess you have to do them opposed each other from side to side ?????

 

[V8 Level II]

Move the holes in the engine plates and move the holes in the crossmember. Do it in the direction that will allow the entire engine/transmission/transfer case to move toward the passenger side. It is easy enough to figure out by looking at the parts.

 

[noel]

Move the holes in the engine plates and move the holes in the crossmember. Do it in the direction that will allow the entire engine/transmission/transfer case to move toward the passenger side. It is easy enough to figure out by looking at the parts.

i know about the trany cross member i should have said the motor cross member or K member sorry
thx noel

 

[V8 Level II]

The Ex V8 has right and left plates that bolt between the engine block and the motor mounts. These are basically factory "adapter" plates that Ford used to make the 302 fit into the 2nd generation Explorer engine bay and line up with the motor mount points that were originally designed for the 4.0 V6.

Here is a pic of the unmodified plates that are unique to the Ex 302. The slots that you see in the large driver side plate are the factory slots to allow for production tolerance stack up.

I moved the holes in these plates by slotting to the new position and then welding up the unused part of each slot to create new holes.

 

[noel]

The Ex V8 has right and left plates that bolt between the engine block and the motor mounts. These are basically factory "adapter" plates that Ford used to make the 302 fit into the 2nd generation Explorer engine bay and line up with the motor mount points that were originally designed for the 4.0 V6.

Here is a pic of the unmodified plates that are unique to the Ex 302. The slots that you see in the large driver side plate are the factory slots to allow for production tolerance stack up.

I moved the holes in these plates by slotting to the new position and then welding up the unused part of each slot to create new holes.

thx for reply that was vary helpful. sorry to have been a dummy but was unfamiliar with this type of motor mounds & i want to have all the info i need before i go ahead & spent money so that i get the rite parts the first time as the money is in short supply.will only bug you guys a little more
thx noel