V8 Conversion Headers

[85_Ranger4x4]

There are a specific set of torque monsters for a v8 ranger conversion, but the pics of them on their website don't look any different from the explorer set. The problem with those is the price and availabilty.

The DS is routed differently to clear whatever a "power steering booster" is.

My beef is with the other side, the four pipes going back are about in the same place as the frame is on my truck.

 

[Scott B.]

The DS is routed differently to clear whatever a "power steering booster" is.

The "power steering booster" is the Ford re-design of the PS pump assembly. It is now 2 pieces - pump with separate reservoir. No idea why they did on the Ex - it takes up more room under the hood.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

The "power steering booster" is the Ford re-design of the PS pump assembly. It is now 2 pieces - pump with separate reservoir. No idea why they did on the Ex - it takes up more room under the hood.

Why would they have to worry about that clearing in just Rangers and BIIs? Wouldn't that be delt with when they came up with the regular Explorer headers? And that would only be a concern if the swapper was keeping the Ex FEAD.

The two piece pump/res is on the top front of the engine, both designs only have the one tube back that bolts on by #7 that would deal with anything up there. #6, 7, and 8 are the ones that are rerouted. It looks like they are more worried about something beside the engine to me... maybe the brake booster.

 

[Mac]

Why would they have to worry about that clearing in just Rangers and BIIs? Wouldn't that be delt with when they came up with the regular Explorer headers? And that would only be a concern if the swapper was keeping the Ex FEAD.

The two piece pump/res is on the top front of the engine, both designs only have the one tube back that bolts on by #7 that would deal with anything up there. #6, 7, and 8 are the ones that are rerouted. It looks like they are more worried about something beside the engine to me... maybe the brake booster.

The "They" you refer to is Bob who does the headers one at a time in his spare time/week-ends. He's not like Hedmans who makes swap headers that don't fit. He did a custom set for a F-150 and charged the guy $1900 (lots of travel). The main problem with the later Ranger/Explorers is the steering shaft and suspension, it gets tight down there. Does work with you very well - if you have a year he deals with.
Dave of the Nord

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

The "They" you refer to is Bob who does the headers one at a time in his spare time/week-ends. He's not like Hedmans who makes swap headers that don't fit. He did a custom set for a F-150 and charged the guy $1900 (lots of travel). The main problem with the later Ranger/Explorers is the steering shaft and suspension, it gets tight down there. Does work with you very well - if you have a year he deals with.
Dave of the Nord

Those are in a torsion bar RBV of some sort and are the regular Explorer headers.

What I am curious about is what is he refering to by "power steering booster" and why the header had to be rerouted for it.

http://torquemonsterheaders.com/multimedia.html#TorqueMonsterSwapHeaders

 

[Mac]

He has to be talking about the power steering box, that's all I can figure. It boosts your manual input. His background is as a Engineer at a airchaft company so his terms might not be "gearhead" talk. You put a set of the torson headers next to the coil spring ones, hard to tell the difference.
Dave

 

[Mac]

Anyone thought about trying a set of the old "Hi-Po" headers? Some of the Mustang guys have been using them in their classics and the "P" heads. Mustang Unlimited has them for $260, look like they will clear the plugs. Not sure how they would fit the Ranger chassis.
Dave

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Anyone thought about trying a set of the old "Hi-Po" headers? Some of the Mustang guys have been using them in their classics and the "P" heads. Mustang Unlimited has them for $260, look like they will clear the plugs. Not sure how they would fit the Ranger chassis.
Dave

I don't think they would fit too bad, they look a lot better than any other option I have seen for the P heads too.

 

[Thed]

Has anyone tried this yet? Particularly with the V6 mounts?

 

[dieseldane]

Has anyone tried this yet? Particularly with the V6 mounts?

Those can be found here and are made specifically for our application. I just don't like them because if I am going to spend money on headers, then I want some that are at the very least mandrel bent and don't have the "kink" in them, and also have some sort of flange for attachment instead of the u-bolt style clamp. Both things seem cheap to me, and better hope you don't ever have to unhook the exhaust for anything, because after a time or two you'll never get them to seal up right, and worst case they'll be deformed too much to use at all.

EDIT: They don't look like they would work with the "p" heads either, could be wrong though.

 

[macenc]

I am not seeing anything on the P heads ..... what works with them ?
Has anyone tried these motorsports headers ?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-9430-P50/
Or these Headman headers ?
http://www.jegs.com/i/Hedman/500/88400/10002/-1

 

[dieseldane]

Putting headers in a v-8 ranger with p heads seems to create two big issues. Of course there are the clearance problems fitting them into the ranger itself, around the steering shaft, frame, and I'm sure there are other things. The issue with the p-heads seems to be spark plug clearance. The plugs are located a little differently and at a different angle which creates the problems. You could use a shorter length spark plug, but the disadvantage to that is they are pretty expensive, and they will still be difficult to put in. You also need to run different spark plug boots as well.


Robbed these from a mustang site.

 

[Twister]

Anyone have a pic of the 70's style manifolds on a first gen with no body lift?

 

[-Nathan-]

My contribution: Hedman 88400 headers; 1.5" primaries, 2.5" collectors, 163$ from Summit Racing, and they fit like a charm on a 4x4, here are pics showing clearances. No interference with anything.

 

[Broosedamoose]

So after reading all this I still would like to know if anything is available for the 98+ Rangers that fits.