Um....maybe buying a Chevrolet......

[Totalled]

Who was that directed at?

I never had anything against the old GM's, with my all time favorite GM being the 73-87 K Series trucks.
Dustin

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Those were the worse trucks ever built?

I suppose you think the 73-79 Fords were junk to huh?

later,
Dustin

 

[Totalled]

And how would you infer that from my statement about the shittastic 73-87 GM trucks?

The only Ford trucks I do not like at all are the 97-03 F-150s.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

How can you not like the 73-87 GM trucks?

They were probely the toughest GM ever built.

Any F150 after 97 sucks.

later,
Dustin

 

[2manyfords]

How can you not like the 73-87 GM trucks?

They were probely the toughest GM ever built.



later,
Dustin

Nah... The '67 to '72 GM "C" series trucks were/are the toughest truck built by any of the big three.

 

[Will]

You can't seriously believe those are tough by today's standards. A modern F150 with the GVW package qualifies as a one-ton by those standards. I have my owner's manual from my '67 somewhere. My C10 was 5,000# GVWR. That's about what a Ranger is.

 

[Simple_serf]

Other than the severe rust isssues they had, I personally think that all of the IH pickups beat the big three any day. I think that the reason for this was simple, many of the parts and designs came from the medum truck line. As a result, the light duty stuff was overbuilt and could hold up to some serious abuse.

 

[Totalled]

They were probely the toughest GM ever built.

Oxymoron...



What's the character limit for one post?

Have you spent a decent amount of time around one...?

They have the worst body panel fitment of any truck GM has ever produced. You cannot shut the doors in them without slamming them. The frames are thin and weak. The 4x4s like to rip their steering boxes off the frame. They rust worse than any other truck of that vintage..

They are horrible steaming piles of doo.

The last decent trucks GM made were the 67-72s, and even then, they are owned by the same period Ford product.

 

[Will]

Oxymoron...
The last decent trucks GM made were the 67-72s, and even then, they are owned by the same period Ford product.

Yeah, let me list all the problems with my '88 Chevy ('73-'87 body-style).

1. It's all original and that sucks seeing that it's only twenty years old. They should design more problems into these things so I can have the fun of working on it.

2. It only gets 20 miles per gallon. How are we going to keep Saudi Arabia alive?

3. There's no rust on it. That's disgusting.

4. You can hook a 9,000# trailer on it and still handle a winding road with one finger on the wheel. Nowhere near as much fun as a self-steering F250 TIB.

I'm trying to think of one single thing I like better about my truck than a Ford. Maybe I like the fact that most Fords of the same era are sitting in fields which is more pictureque than driving on the road.

And my doors are hard to close even on my '88 unless you crack the window a hair to let the air pressure out. Then they snick closed. try that on the 500,000 Colorad's you've driven.

And I've only owned one Chevy of this era so maybe the rest are all shit. I only owned one old Ford a '77 and it was okay except the steering sucked.

 

[4x4RangerGuy]

Yeah, let me list all the problems with my '88 Chevy ('73-'87 body-style).

1. It's all original and that sucks seeing that it's only twenty years old. They should design more problems into these things so I can have the fun of working on it.

2. It only gets 20 miles per gallon. How are we going to keep Saudi Arabia alive?

3. There's no rust on it. That's disgusting.

4. You can hook a 9,000# trailer on it and still handle a winding road with one finger on the wheel. Nowhere near as much fun as a self-steering F250 TIB.

I'm trying to think of one single thing I like better about my truck than a Ford. Maybe I like the fact that most Fords of the same era are sitting in fields which is more pictureque than driving on the road.

And my doors are hard to close even on my '88 unless you crack the window a hair to let the air pressure out. Then they snick closed. try that on the 500,000 Colorad's you've driven.

And I've only owned one Chevy of this era so maybe the rest are all shit. I only owned one old Ford a '77 and it was okay except the steering sucked.

You don't like brand loyalty do you Will?

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Yeah, let me list all the problems with my '88 Chevy ('73-'87 body-style).

1. It's all original and that sucks seeing that it's only twenty years old. They should design more problems into these things so I can have the fun of working on it.

2. It only gets 20 miles per gallon. How are we going to keep Saudi Arabia alive?

3. There's no rust on it. That's disgusting.

4. You can hook a 9,000# trailer on it and still handle a winding road with one finger on the wheel. Nowhere near as much fun as a self-steering F250 TIB.

I'm trying to think of one single thing I like better about my truck than a Ford. Maybe I like the fact that most Fords of the same era are sitting in fields which is more pictureque than driving on the road.

And my doors are hard to close even on my '88 unless you crack the window a hair to let the air pressure out. Then they snick closed. try that on the 500,000 Colorad's you've driven.

And I've only owned one Chevy of this era so maybe the rest are all shit. I only owned one old Ford a '77 and it was okay except the steering sucked.

My dad has had three Chevys that were the style in question:

1981 light half ton 2wd with a 305, rode like a freekin Cadillic. Would just cruise along like a car, bent the aftermarket hitch towing a huge Buffalo dirt scraper as well. We used to have a tandam axle gooseneck flatbed trailer we pulled with it as well. Rebuild the engine once, never touched the tranny. It did get some pretty nasty rust on the body eventually but it had been around the block a time or two as well. He got it sometime in the late 80's and sold it 4 years ago, if not for the rust we would still have it. If there was ever a flagship of what a truck should be, IMO it was it.

1981 3/4 ton Camper Special, 1971 350, T400 (felt like it had a shift kit), posi 14b, very light surface rust, rode like a lumber wagon but also had bigger springs than our '80 F-350. Got for $300 from behind our neighbors barn, it was her deceased husbands and was going to be junked. He was a mechanic so only god knows what all had been done to it, at one point I remember it being set up as a tow truck. Had minimal rust, we have since sold it.

1980 3/4 ton ex Burlington Northern Railroad truck,4x4, 350, 4spd, my dad's first service truck in the late 80's. Minimal rust, runs like a top, but has a utility box and fairly high gearing, just leaves it feeling kind of awkward. Its 1980 F-350 stablemate usually gets to go on more trips, just feels like home, which is odd because we got it 5 years after the Chevy.

I prefer Ford, but at least in my family GM has given us little to complain about, my dad's F-350 is the only ford truck he has ever owned and is part of the reason why I ended up with a Ranger.

IH takes the cake though for building a tough truck.

 

[Totalled]

Yeah, let me list all the problems with my '88 Chevy ('73-'87 body-style).

1. It's all original and that sucks seeing that it's only twenty years old. They should design more problems into these things so I can have the fun of working on it.

2. It only gets 20 miles per gallon. How are we going to keep Saudi Arabia alive?

3. There's no rust on it. That's disgusting.

4. You can hook a 9,000# trailer on it and still handle a winding road with one finger on the wheel. Nowhere near as much fun as a self-steering F250 TIB.

I'm trying to think of one single thing I like better about my truck than a Ford. Maybe I like the fact that most Fords of the same era are sitting in fields which is more pictureque than driving on the road.

And my doors are hard to close even on my '88 unless you crack the window a hair to let the air pressure out. Then they snick closed. try that on the 500,000 Colorad's you've driven.

And I've only owned one Chevy of this era so maybe the rest are all shit. I only owned one old Ford a '77 and it was okay except the steering sucked.

So what's your point, you're lucky enough to own the exception to the rule?

 

[RedRanger888]

Other than the severe rust isssues they had, I personally think that all of the IH pickups beat the big three any day. I think that the reason for this was simple, many of the parts and designs came from the medum truck line. As a result, the light duty stuff was overbuilt and could hold up to some serious abuse.

I couldn't agree more, "Binders" rock! Drove a '48 1-ton back & forth to summer job one year. It'd been sitting over 20 years; changed the oil, gapped the plugs, put points from a Minneapolis Moline tractor in it, pulled it and it fired right off. Drove all summer like that. Minor problem of no brakes/ fuel pump/ fuel tank/ etc... rigged up a gravity feed from a bucket fastened to the toolbox in the back, no problem! Learned how to double clutch in that beast. Dinky little 213 flathead six, but with 5.13 gears you couldn't stop it for anything. Man I miss that thing...

 

[BlackBII]

My dad is a bleeding blue Ford guy, but he drives a '85 C10 with a 305 and a 2bbl and it won't die, and it was 300$.
He has had it for like 7 years and never changed the oil, never changed the tranny fluid, he probbaly has never opened the hood(other than when we dropped the motor in, which was a boneyard motor)
So my experience with the mid eighties Chev's is pretty good, I also had a 81 K5 Blazer, and that thing was ballsy and dug like a bastard

But I am still a true blue Ford guy, all vehicles are vehicles and they all have their goods and bads

 

[2manyfords]

I had an '86 Chev 1/2 ton 305 4barrel 700R Automatic and it was quite decent but couldn't take the suspension abuse a Ford of that era could take.

I broke the shock mount bolts right off the frame on the front end by driving fast through a turkey trail at the lake, the same trail I've driven many Rangers over and have never had an issue.

In my exprience... the Chev had a better engine/tranny combo but the build quality of the body sucked.

I'll stick by my statment earlier....'67 to '72 Chevs were the toughest GM truck ever built to date. Maybe not the spring rates, they were lighter but the body and frame were excellent. The only thing I didn't like about them was the gas tank in the cab behind the seat.