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What I've found is the cheapskates will argue their point with a brick wall.

The old saying "if you're gonna do something, do it right" packs a serious punch. If you wanna bend tube, get a tubing bender. If you want a body lift, buy a body lift. If you wanna advertise yourself as an automotive shop, prolly not in your best interest to dog someone out because they bought the right tool for the job instead of skimping on quality or performance.

I loved my old ProTools 105. It bent up several cages and done a back-half or two. Have been looking into the JD2 benders, their shop is only about an hour away and have been planning to go and check them out.

I'm lazy tho, gotta have my air over hydro setup. Pulling on that bar gets old quick.
 
yea i will be upgradeing to hydro before long for sure
 
What I've found is the cheapskates will argue their point with a brick wall.

The old saying "if you're gonna do something, do it right" packs a serious punch. If you wanna bend tube, get a tubing bender. If you want a body lift, buy a body lift. If you wanna advertise yourself as an automotive shop, prolly not in your best interest to dog someone out because they bought the right tool for the job instead of skimping on quality or performance.

Very well said.

I couldn't be any happier with my JD2 also. Somehow I just don't see a rollcage turning out all that well with a pipe kinker and sand-filled DOM tubing lol.
 
so your telling me your bender will do a perfect 180 degree bend without a kink in thin wall tube? and im lazy because i bought a good tool?

No it will not bend 180 degree's without making a custom lower die, and I have never once yet had to bend anything that far. So you got me there, and no I am not saying you are lazy because you bought a good tool. I am saying that you are lazy because you would rather spend $800 instead of taking the extra time to properly use what you would already have to do the same exact task.

this is made for tubeing, not exhaust pipe...if i did exhaust i wouldnt give a **** about a small kink

That’s funny because mine is to lol, its made for pipe, dom tubing, exhaust tubing, aluminum turbo charge pipe, broom handles, conduit hell just about anything round it will bend without even the smallest kink so use your imagination the sky is the limit. I’m sorry to hear that your quality of work is not a priority to you even if it’s just exhaust.

if you don’t want to spend the money for one like mine they sell the plans where you can build your own....but good try

So instead of buying the already dirt cheap hydro unit and making a few simple mods to it. I should go source out plans which cost x amount of dollars, then find the materials which im sure wont be under a hundred dollars, and then do the fabrication. Which depending on the person most people don’t have free access to a machine shop begin with. So now you have to either have a machine shop do the work or buy the equipment.

ill be doing a tube bed soon and she is gunna be real handy

Let me know when you get tired from all that manual bending would gladly give you pointers on using the hydro unit you got the right way. :icon_thumby:

that is time consuming enough without the hassle of filling tubing with sand to get a almost kink free bend, I bought the jd2 model 3 bender with a die and a notcher for about a grand to my door,

I don’t feel it is very time consuming nor much of a hassle at all and I have worked flat rate so I know how valuable time is. But I am willing to guess opinion is formed from ignorance and rumors instead of actual experience in this case. Those who think that the hydro bender will kink stuff are mainly those who have just read what other people have posted on the internet and taken it for gospel. If you take the time and do it right, it wouldn’t be “almost kink free” it will be kink free.

Just a reminder, even the smallest kink is a place where your cage will fail in a roll, even if you dont care about your own safety how could you risk the safety of your girlfriend, wife, kids.... its not very often im alone in my truck...

I care greatly about my safety and the safety of my loved ones, if for one instance I felt there was any structural weakness imparted into a bend I would not have used it nor would I be promoting it.

What I've found is the cheapskates will argue their point with a brick wall.

Ok so now I am cheap because I work hard for my money and value every dollar I make. Driving me to do something without being excessive, you don’t need to spend $800 to make perfect kink free SAFE STRUCTURAL bends in tubing that’s the point I am trying to get across. Another thing, starting and keeping a business alive is a very expensive endevor you cant always buy the most expensive tool to do the job, you have to find alternatives to sucessfully get the job done and yet keep the budget balanced especialy in this economy.

The old saying "if you're gonna do something, do it right" packs a serious punch. If you wanna bend tube, get a tubing bender. If you want a body lift, buy a body lift. If you wanna advertise yourself as an automotive shop, prolly not in your best interest to dog someone out because they bought the right tool for the job instead of skimping on quality or performance.

Yes it does, and who are you to say that I am doing something wrong and what is the right tool for the job? Infact if “PERFECT” bends are what is desired we all should be using a mandrel bender if you wanna go that route. Don’t tell me what is in my best interest that is my decision to make not yours. I take great pride in my quality of work and just because I am using an unorthodox COST EFFECTIVE method to get the job done I am shunned and told that I am doing it wrong. I was not “doging someone” out as you stated I was simply pointing out that it is financially foolish and completely excessive to purchase the JD2.

From what I’ve found is that people who spend a wheel borrow full of money on the coolest tool then realize they could have done if for a lot less are generally butt hurt about being taken to the bank and feel the need to flaunt and argue their purchase to the death, just to justify their actions. For those who actually read I was not the one trying to “dog out” someone. Never once did I come into this thread saying “I BOUGHT A REAL BENDER”, no I simply answered the question that was posted and someone felt the need to flaunt their expensive toy.

Somehow I just don't see a rollcage turning out all that well with a pipe kinker and sand-filled DOM tubing lol.

Sorry to hear you believe everything someone publishes on the internet, you will be forced forever to buy only the best of the best tools because John Doe on some random forum says "that is the wrong tool it will only kink"
 
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Let me make sure I have this straight...

People are getting bent (literally?) out of shape..over..the tool they use to bend metal?

Let's take some of this passion and go cure a disease.
 
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"I don’t feel it is very time consuming nor much of a hassle at all and I have worked flat rate so I know how valuable time is. But I am willing to guess opinion is formed from ignorance and rumors instead of actual experience in this case. Those who think that the hydro bender will kink stuff are mainly those who have just read what other people have posted on the internet and taken it for gospel. If you take the time and do it right, it wouldn’t be “almost kink free” it will be kink free."

To be old and wise you must first be young and stupid, there is no ignorance here, I used a kinker for a few bumpers, tire carriers, sliders, ect... I machined rollers, fitted the dies, greased the dies, heated the tubing, filled it with sand and every combination and had some mild success but nothing I would sell to the general public. the first 5 bumpers I made paid for the bender, the next 10 or so was cash in my pocket, when I wanted to do machine work I bought a lathe, I didnt put a hand drill in a bench vise and call it a lathe, I take pride in having good tools and doing good work, yeah I could fill my tube with sand and bend it or I could just bend it and use that time I didnt spend fillinng it with sand doing something else, jd2=money well spent, even more money made.:thefinger:
 
Let me make sure I have this straight...

People are getting bent (literally?) out of shape..over..the tool they use to bend metal?

Let's take some of this passion and go cure a disease.

It has nothing to do realy with the tool anymore if people want to call me out and imply im cheap and do $hity unsafe work because I didnt buy a high dollar machine; I am going to back my stuff up. Like I said before I answered the original question "can it be done" and and someone felt the need to flaunt.

To be old and wise you must first be young and stupid, there is no ignorance here, I used a kinker for a few bumpers, tire carriers, sliders, ect... I machined rollers, fitted the dies, greased the dies, heated the tubing, filled it with sand and every combination and had some mild success but nothing I would sell to the general public. the first 5 bumpers I made paid for the bender, the next 10 or so was cash in my pocket, when I wanted to do machine work I bought a lathe, I didnt put a hand drill in a bench vise and call it a lathe, I take pride in having good tools and doing good work, yeah I could fill my tube with sand and bend it or I could just bend it and use that time I didnt spend fillinng it with sand doing something else, jd2=money well spent, even more money made.:thefinger:

Sorry to hear you had so much trouble mine must be this total miracle fluke. The small amount of time saved is negligble compared to the increased capability. As I stated before not only can you bend roll cage tubing, you can bend exhaust tubing up to 3" to alittle over 90 degrees without the need for a custom lower die. If you want to be stuck bending a limited type and size range of tubing thats fine go waste your hard earned $800 trust me I wont loose one bit of sleep I promise. For me I will stick with mine for almost a quarter of the price. :thefinger:
 
greatt ya see what i started?? i just want to make a nice little bumper, im not gunna spend 800 on a bender to use it to make bumpers... if i was doin alot of bending i would spend the money without a doubt
 
greatt ya see what i started?? i just want to make a nice little bumper, im not gunna spend 800 on a bender to use it to make bumpers... if i was doin alot of bending i would spend the money without a doubt

haha sorry we got carried away, I guess the answer is yes with some work and a trip to a machine shop you can mod your pipe bender to made a decent bend. IMHO I wouldnt use DOM unless your required to by compitition rules, for a bumper cold rolled would be fine and your wallet wont suffer as much if it does kink
 
b&g auto your reserved to your opinion, i dont really see how i was flaunting my bender when someone asked about it so i posted a picture

if you want to bend tube your way then keep doing it your way, i never said there was anything wrong with the way you do it i just said i wasnt going to do it that way i like being able to throw a tube in and have my bend 10 seconds later...but thats me

i have used many a kinkers in my day some with success some without, actually built my own out of an old 6 foot tall hydrolic trash compactor, did it work yes was i happy with it? nah so i went a different way

i would love to see some pictures of your work, im not bashing im not being a smartass...just would like to see the work you are backing up
 
B&G, what bender do you have? My buddy has the Harbor Freight one and it works ok...but I'd like something a little better.

I wish I could shell out the money for a JD bender, but that ain't happening anytime soon.
 
I can pickup one of these from tractor supply for about 250 or so, but they are cheesy, I might want to get one, because cutting and welding everything is a hassle
 
b&g auto your reserved to your opinion, i dont really see how i was flaunting my bender when someone asked about it so i posted a picture

Thank you and I shall continue to exercise that right as I see fit. I can see it clearly because if you actually read all the posts leading up to yours, not one single person asks to see it or even mentions it as you claim. Nor did you contribute to the question at hand you just posted big bandwidth consuming pictures :attention_whore:.

B&G, what bender do you have? My buddy has the Harbor Freight one and it works ok...but I'd like something a little better.

I wish I could shell out the money for a JD bender, but that ain't happening anytime soon.

I have the HF 16 ton manual model works perfect for me just have to take your time and practice a few times to get it down right. :icon_thumby:
 
im soryy i posted a picture without your consent i will be sure to ask from now on, but i would still love to see your perfect kink free bends oh master teh internetz
 
That's enough children. This is getting really old. :annoyed:



B&G, I too would like to see some of your work.
 
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